Stop crackin on the lasher - Page 3

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by CrazyCrazy
So what?? ALL Heavy Assault suck at long range. Moron.

Hi, troll. Read the thread. Try to use your grey matter. Put one and one together. People are saying the Lasher is good from long range, I'm disagreeing. Now be a good trainable and go away.

Katanaboy · 2003-07-30, 01:13 PM

stop your whining, there nerfing the lasher because everyone has one

everyone had a jackhammer, it never got touched

Sleepwalker · 2003-07-30, 01:18 PM

honestly, everyone did NOT have the jackhammer. it was very common, yes, but there weren't nearly as many as there are lashers now. it's a bit ridiculous.

SumYungGui · 2003-07-30, 03:42 PM

duh, of course everyone has one. remember, this is the record setting barely-over-a-week-since-buffing nerf. it's the current flavor of the week and everyone's trying it out. everyone having it right now is not an indicator of the human tendency to want to win using whatever means possible. we're still in the 'oooh, pretty shiny' phase.

and if you can say 'everyone has a lasher' then I can damn well say 'everyone has a jackhammer'. 'it's a bit ridiculous.'

Cease · 2003-07-30, 04:13 PM

Here's my question. If people wanna say "The Lasher sucks at range." "The Lasher isn't that good vs Armor" then why do you care about the changes since thats what they are addressing?

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Cease
Here's my question. If people wanna say "The Lasher sucks at range." "The Lasher isn't that good vs Armor" then why do you care about the changes since thats what they are addressing?

The Lasher sucks at long range, it's very good at medium range which the nerf will definitely impact. I don't think I've seen anybody say that it isn't good vs. armor, but maybe I'm reading the wrong threads.
Funny, I feel like the Lasher apologist and I'm TR. Go figure.

Kaltagesta · 2003-07-30, 04:25 PM

rememebr when the vanu were getting fucked every which way but sunday, and people replied to the moaning vanu

'the terrans have rapid fire, the NC have hard hitting hsit, and the vanu have versatility'

now, at the time we did not. now we have a weapon that can kill armour and soft reasionable well, one would assume it is a versatile weapon which is fair enough. but noooo, nerf the bitch!

my point is, this is how we are meant to be, versatile. we also have a magic tank that can kill people through think walls such as bunkers, but thats another tale.

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 04:47 PM

Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
rememebr when the vanu were getting fucked every which way but sunday, and people replied to the moaning vanu

'the terrans have rapid fire, the NC have hard hitting hsit, and the vanu have versatility'

now, at the time we did not. now we have a weapon that can kill armour and soft reasionable well, one would assume it is a versatile weapon which is fair enough. but noooo, nerf the bitch!

my point is, this is how we are meant to be, versatile. we also have a magic tank that can kill people through think walls such as bunkers, but thats another tale.

Versatile could also be a weapon that doesn't need to directly hit a target to damage/kill it. The Lasher already had that, and they increased the lashing effect. It is and was versatile, just because you'd prefer it being versatile in a way that makes you significantly stronger does not necessarily make it best for the game.

Katanaboy · 2003-07-30, 05:34 PM

i dont ever remember the old lasher even lashing, and if it did, it did a whopping 1-2 damage.

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 05:57 PM

Originally posted by Katanaboy
i dont ever remember the old lasher even lashing, and if it did, it did a whopping 1-2 damage.

It did lash, and you're completely guessing on the damage. They increased the damage and the distance that the lashing happened.
The point of the argument is that the weapon has versatility without being able to rape MAXs and vehicles. Sure, the Vanu would rather have versatility that means easier battles for them and a no-brainer 4 certs to spend but that doesn't mean they should get it.

Kaltagesta · 2003-07-30, 06:19 PM

you think that being able to shoot at someone, miss yet still damage them is versatility? thats essentially what the MCG does, its so innaccurate - tats not versitile, it just means you shoot at their feet.

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 06:27 PM

You're grasping at straws. If I hide behind a tree or barrier does the MCG hurt me? Not a bit. Does the Lasher hurt me? Probably kills me, actually. If you suspect an infil is around nearby and don't have DL, you could fire all over the place with the MCG and probably hit them but almost certainly wouldn't kill them. Do the same with the Lasher and watch them drop.
Show me where the definition of versatility means only useful against armor and useful against infantry. It's good up close, and at medium range. That's versatile. It's good direct fire or just blindly firing in the general direction of a target. That's versatile. I understand that you're blindly defending your empire's weapon, that's normal. Your argument is weak sauce though.

Kaltagesta · 2003-07-30, 06:29 PM

but...but...but... we have the thresher, man, give us a break!

Madcow · 2003-07-30, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
but...but...but... we have the thresher, man, give us a break!

That reminds me, I need to drop Lasher with my alt and get Thresher. I'm seeing a whole lot more of those since the patch and they seem to be more effective. Wouldn't mind seeing whether or not they stopped being hoverturds.

Xenar · 2003-07-30, 07:19 PM

I have no clue how they could nerf the lasher when the MCG and JH are both better than it. Too many TR's and NC's have been whining that finally the VS have a decent HA weapon now I guess.