Joysticks with VTOLs

[Zar]

Originally Posted by Pillar of Armor

I'm seriously considering getting this one:



The only reason I haven't bought it yet is because I'm not sure if it will work with PS2.

things a piece of shit >.< waste of money it will break like 2 week's in

[Pillar of Armor]

Originally Posted by Nemises

there is no doubt it will..
Devs have stated joysticks are supported..

X52 is just a Dx input device (I have one)..

whether the game supports additional Axis (ie the Throttles Z axis, or the various slider / rotatory axis) is another story...
Since we dont know whether the vehicles will support an analog throttle input, you might want to hold off..

..to be honest, I can't see any real advanatage (other than cool factor) for using a joystick, or hotas in this game..the vehicles will handle fine with mouse / keyboard, and they look arcadey enough for it to be disadvantageous to be "restricted" to a joystick..

...not trying to buzkill though...you cant really put a price on cool factor.

(you should really be looking at one of these for cool factor BTW, not the X52)

The hotas looks BA. I think I want the joystick for fun more than anything else. I seriously hope they they support analog throttle and z axis movement because that's what I want the joystick for the most. In PS1 the number keys were mapped to a percentage of the vehicle's throttle (1 = 10% - 0 = 100%). I made use of that heavily because keyboard control (W key) of throttle is garbage. I was able to outmaneuver reavers with a lib using some fancy throttle and z axis manipulation and it will be easier and much more fun with joystick control.

When the game hits beta I'll probably give it a shot with my xbox controller before I grab the fancy joystick.

[FastAndFree]

Originally Posted by Zar

things a piece of shit >.< waste of money it will break like 2 week's in

Been using the throttle for a few months now (stick not so much) and it's fine. Although there is some pot fluctuation at certain positions on both the throttle and the flap slider. Got it replaced, and it was the same. I presume it's an issue with the entire line

[Sotonian]

i will probably use a 360 control pad like i do in BF3

[Mirax]

I can't wait to try out the air vehicles. This thread makes it sound like there will be a separate control for up/down thrust vs forward/brake thrust... and nobody knows whether analog throttles will work (for either one)

[Bravix]

In regard to how VTOL would work, it works fine in Arma II. VTOL jets simply fly around and, when you want to VTOL, you click a button and it goes into VTOL mode. Pretty simple.

[MrMorton]

Originally Posted by Otleaz

So I've been wondering for a while how joysticks would work since the aircraft in this game are all VTOL, especially with the Scythe.

I really want to know if there are any flight sim veterans or maybe just long time joystick users who can predict if joysticks will be viable... especially with that Scythe.

here is how I am going to try to bind it.

x axis is going to be strafing

y axis is going to be pitch

z axis is going to be yaw

right/left mouse buttons are going to be roll

mousewheel for accelerator (all the way from full reverse to full forward), since I imagine I will be changing speed too much to be using my joystick's throttle

middle mouse button is break

mouselook

then joystick buttons for shooting/ab/flares etc.

[MrKWalmsley]

If we are going to get into recommendations of joysticks, I have one for those people out there who are either un-willing or can't afford to pay $400 on a joystick, like me. Its a standard one, which I am going to get soon:
Cyborg F.L.Y 5

Cheap as chips, around £30 in the UK. Although I have the feeling a majority of the guys here have $400 to blow! I have used it quite a bit round my friends house on Project Reality, which requires a quite precise joystick, and I got used to it pretty quick.

[DanNC]

Originally Posted by Bravix

In regard to how VTOL would work, it works fine in Arma II. VTOL jets simply fly around and, when you want to VTOL, you click a button and it goes into VTOL mode. Pretty simple.

It sounds like you're going to have to hold down or constantly press the ascend button in order to hover at the same altitude. I prefer how it was in PS where it would hover automatically for the aircraft and only ascend or descend if you press the corresponding button.

[maradine]

You're going to get about the same utility from a $30 stick as a $400 HOTAS setup in Planetside 2. The vast majority of the HOTAS functionality will go wasted when there are a third as many possible keystrokes as input mechanisms.

I still have a $20 Logitech stick for when I can't be bothered with the 30 minutes (seriously) of getting the full Thrustmaster rig properly set up. I suspect I'll be using it a lot for PS2.

[Haro]

If PS2 supports it (which I hope it will) I plan on dusting off my old sidewinder. Still works after 10 years.

[Eyeklops]

Too bad they don't make these anymore


I think flying the scythe with this would be cool. I never owned one, but heard many great things about the Space Orb 360 being used in Descent.

[Gonefshn]

Originally Posted by Eyeklops

Too bad they don't make these anymore


I think flying the scythe with this would be cool. I never owned one, but heard many great things about the Space Orb 360 being used in Descent.

That looks like it would play like a shooter with a trackball mouse hahaha.

Joysticks never interested me much I found them more difficult to use. Maybe with practice not so though.

[Neksar]

1. How the heck does that orb work? I am googling it as we speak.

2. I've never flown with a joystick, but I want to start for this game. I think the main reason I'll miss sancs is because I'd want to practice flying in VR training.

[RSphil]

Originally Posted by Zar

things a piece of shit >.< waste of money it will break like 2 week's in

iv had mine for many years and never given me any bother yet