Another heavy assault post (dont flame me) - Page 3

Warborn · 2003-06-09, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Led
You are not speaking any sense. You make it sound as if just holding down the fire button with the hammer makes things fall over dead no matter where they are.

I'd be lying if I said holding down the fire button made things fall over dead. You need to point the gun at the target and strafe around while holding the fire button. That makes things fall over dead, with little actual skill involved.

And by extrapolation, anyone that uses a sweeper also has no skill. Or chainguns. Or lashers. Or anything that works best up close.

I think you mean interpolate, not extrapolate.

Also, no, you're completely wrong. All of the weapons you listed function very differently from the jackhammer, with the exception of the sweeper, which is similar, but fires much more slowly, can't fire three rounds in near-union, and has a smaller clip. It is similar, but due to those limitations, does not provide the same results as the jackhammer.

By the way, can the condescending attitude.

My "condescending attitude" only seems as such because you're being arrogant about this.

Madcat170 · 2003-06-09, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by somebody else
The lasher is laughable. I play VS now, and tried it for kicks. Dumped it. Perhaps I was jaded never being killed by it in beta.

yet you have a pic of a vanu with one in your sig?

Ducimus · 2003-06-09, 09:55 PM

In related news, Spork had this to say about the Jackhammer

I'm not aware of any current plans, but I have made the Designers aware of the current feedback regarding the Jackhammer.

In response to this thread http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/p...ML/005582.html

Which was asking if they had any plans for the Jackhammer. So in other words, they maybe looking into it.

Led · 2003-06-10, 06:46 AM

Fine, fine, yall can go on whining about the effectiveness of a stupid simple shotgun. Of course, this is all in retribution about getting your horribly overpowered maxes nerfed, ya whiny bastards. I aint in the mood to put up with your BS.

Nerf my shotgun, I will stomp you flat with my rifle.

Nerf my rifle, I will use my knife.

Nerf my knife... well... !#$^ you

Hellsfire123 · 2003-06-10, 07:39 AM

The jackhammers a shotgun, short of a tank mounted weapon it should do the most damage, especially at close range.

This is not serious sam, guns do have recoil. If you expect to be able to spray 30 rounds from a chaingun before feeling it kick, you're delusional. However, if you point this gun through a door, and let rip when the door opens, you could easily kill 3-4 people. I know, its happened to me.

Pair two or three CGs together, see if any amount of jackhammers can get close enough to kill you. You shouldnt die till you need to reload.

Alittle off topic, have they removed the lashing from the lasher? I know they removed it from teammates, but i havnt noticed it damaging enemies either, not unless the orb explodes close by anyway.

Plato · 2003-06-10, 10:16 AM

There are no indications of an impending nerf to the Jackhammer so don't worry.

The TR maxes get hit with the nerf bat today and I just hope they improve the chaingun a bit in relation to it's CoF to even things out in the heavy assault area. Let the Jackhammer remain the king of CQB. Sweepers and Rocklets remain effective against it.

EnderCN · 2003-06-10, 01:36 PM

If you really like the lasher simply because of how it performs at close range, then you are using it poorly or wasting your time. A sweeper shotgun which is 4 certs cheaper kills faster than the lasher at 20m or shorter and is easier to aim.

You need to use the suppression ability of the lasher or learn how to use it at 20m+ outdoors to really make it worth the points. It needs some help but its not worthless as is, just not up to par with the jackhammer.

1024 · 2003-06-10, 01:42 PM

Originally posted by Jaged
What exactly is wrong with the Jackhammer pwning? NC is the best. We should pwn.

Well, you can't argue with that.

nice one jag

tmartinez72 · 2003-06-10, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Madcat170
yet you have a pic of a vanu with one in your sig?

Heheh. I know. It's sad, but I couldn't find a decent pic of a VS with one of the common pool weapons to work as a sig. :o

Seer · 2003-06-10, 01:56 PM

I agree that the chaingun could stand some minor improvements, and the jackhammer might need the 'instant agile kill' secondary fire retuned.

Airlift · 2003-06-10, 02:18 PM

In most cases, the primary fire of the Jack is more dangerous than the secondary because of the difference in cone of fire. When you switch over to secondary, the CoF dobles in size off the bat and gets even bigger when you actually pull the trigger. The result is that secondary mode is for pressing the barrel up to someone's back before firing, or switching to in a hurry to finish off someone you've already wounded badly with the primary fire.

The chain gun is also a very deadly weapon, but more for taking out groups of people on the move than the Jack. It has terrible recoil, but works really well at medium range when using burst fire (Which is gay as hell really, in what movie, game, etc.. have you ever seen a minigun fire in less than a 10 second spray?).

The Lasher I haven't used. It kills me a lot (I currently only wear Agile), and sometimes even when I'm making best use of cover. Still, Idon't like this weapon much, and I laugh uncontrollably whenever someone tries to shoot one at my mosquito. "What are you thinking, guy?"

Plato · 2003-06-10, 03:32 PM

CoF

Originally posted by Airlift
gets even bigger when you actually pull the trigger

Funny that...

SpacemanSpiff · 2003-06-10, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Led
Fine, fine, yall can go on whining about the effectiveness of a stupid simple shotgun. Of course, this is all in retribution about getting your horribly overpowered maxes nerfed, ya whiny bastards. I aint in the mood to put up with your BS.

Nerf my shotgun, I will stomp you flat with my rifle.

Nerf my rifle, I will use my knife.

Nerf my knife... well... !#$^ you

We may take your life, but we, the TR, will never ever take your freedom.

Led · 2003-06-10, 04:17 PM

Wallace never had respawn tubes.

SpacemanSpiff · 2003-06-10, 04:22 PM

The Scots would have kicked that much more arse if they did.
Of course, that means the English would have respawn tubes as well.
In this case, the Scots would have to zerg the English to get upclose with their Claymore-hammers, because the English would win a long range battle with their longbow-cyclers. But before this the English would charge the Scots with their heavy-Prowler-horsemen. And the Scots would retaliate by sticking the Prowlers with very very large sticks.