Definition of 'Selling Power' - Page 4

Zulthus · 2011-09-11, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

What if PS2 had a $15 subscription fee but incorporated the reserves system, where instead of a BR cap, free players had reduced level speed, character slots and weapon options?

Yes, this is one I can agree with. Instead of giving the subscription-based players an upgrade on training time/BR, you just restrict the non-sub players. It's much better than a cash shop...

Vancha · 2011-09-11, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Zulthus

Yes, this is one I can agree with. Instead of giving the subscription-based players an upgrade on training time/BR, you just restrict the non-sub players. It's much better than a cash shop...

Again, can't tell if serious.

Zulthus · 2011-09-11, 01:13 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Again, can't tell if serious.

Heh, I am. I'm aware you were being sarcastic, but you rolled a good idea in nonetheless.

CutterJohn · 2011-09-11, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Again, can't tell if serious.

My guess is serious. Not joking at all. Its incredibly aggravating, and shows that people are mainly just hating on the name, not the idea.

Anytime fodderside is mentioned, well its perfectly fine for them to have restrictions, because they are not paying!

Senyu · 2011-09-11, 01:39 PM

How is paying 15 a month removes restrictions that players who play for free any different than other F2P models that have buy to win? You have to buy just to get the rest of the game that way.

Talek Krell · 2011-09-11, 01:42 PM

I suppose it's nice for it to at least be straightforward that way.

Vancha · 2011-09-11, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Senyu

How is paying 15 a month removes restrictions that players who play for free any different than other F2P models that have buy to win? You have to buy just to get the rest of the game that way.

Bingo.

There's barely any difference between subscription and the F2P proposed...It's all marketing. The F2P is framed in such a way to make the game more appealing to the free players. If you like the idea I proposed, then you like F2P with a cash shop that sells experience boosts and character slots. Just pretend it's still a subscription model.

Zulthus · 2011-09-11, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Senyu

How is paying 15 a month removes restrictions that players who play for free any different than other F2P models that have buy to win? You have to buy just to get the rest of the game that way.

So that we could avoid a cash shop altogether while still funding the game. If people are just going to spend $15/mo on the cash shop anyway, why not just pay a sub instead?

Crator · 2011-09-11, 02:43 PM

Plus, it gives people the option to pay less then $15 if they want to. More freedom with payment options in hopes they can also dangle a pretty skin or cool looking weapon attachment that doesn't do any but make it look cool. I believe Smed did mention something about drops with + stats and - stats that would also be available via the cash shop. So for instance you as a player may be more inclined to pick up one of the variant weapons because you put yourself in different situations that require perhaps more range, for example.

Traak · 2011-09-11, 02:47 PM

Making rich dweebs insta-gods isn't going to sell this game.

Hamma · 2011-09-11, 02:48 PM

Rich?

They aren't going to be charging 1500$ for items or anything..

Crator · 2011-09-11, 02:51 PM

A microtransaction is a financial transaction involving a very small sum of money and usually one that occurs online

Senyu · 2011-09-11, 03:02 PM

What you proposed is still the same thing though. It's still a system of players can pay to be better. Your just on the otherside of the fence and approve of it when just a short bit ago you all hated the fact people can buy and get more benifits than people do don't buy.

There shouldn't be any buying that can make your character better in any way.

Zulthus · 2011-09-11, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by Senyu

What you proposed is still the same thing though. It's still a system of players can pay to be better. Your just on the otherside of the fence and approve of it when just a short bit ago you all hated the fact people can buy and get more benifits than people do don't buy.

There shouldn't be any buying that can make your character better in any way.

I'd really just prefer an amazing game with no subscription and no cash shop. Both can make your character better. It seems every MMO coming out nowadays has a cash shop though... as if the game itself isn't enough to keep people playing.

Crator · 2011-09-11, 03:19 PM

Can't blame companies for trying new things to produce more revenue. I just have an issue with it when it is setup in a way that would give an unfair advantage to others who may not be able to spend as much as someone else.