Censoring - Page 5

Captain1nsaneo · 2012-02-14, 09:16 PM

Edit:
*Sigh* Post and then discover you had 4 other images that would have worked better. Such is life. Also, Hamma normally disapproves of this kind of shenaniganry which will help you understand what happened if several people in this thread get removed from the forums. Which would be most ironic given the thread topic.

Mastachief · 2012-02-14, 09:39 PM

Moderation on the official forums really worked............................................ .........*tumbleweed*............................. ..

xSquirtle · 2012-02-14, 10:03 PM

Nothing worse then the official forum moderation.

nomotog · 2012-02-15, 01:02 AM

I would like the PS community to be civil and polite well shooting each other. If such a thing is a impossible dream, I would like a minimum level be enforced by a profanity censor.

(Maybe have give it a on off button.)

Firefly · 2012-02-15, 10:03 AM

Asking for civility from neckbeard gamers in a military/war video game is like expecting Ft. Bragg hookers on GI Joe payday to give a military discount.

So fuck that, and shit cock damn ass!

nomotog · 2012-02-15, 11:55 AM

So ya, I think we will need the censor then.

Effective · 2012-02-15, 12:24 PM

This is how I feel about censoring

Redshift · 2012-02-15, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Effective

This is how I feel about censoring

i saw him in london the other day, second time, he's still fucking hilarious

Graywolves · 2012-02-15, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Asking for civility from neckbeard gamers in a military/war video game is like expecting Ft. Bragg hookers on GI Joe payday to give a military discount.

So fuck that, and shit cock damn ass!

^

Traak · 2012-02-16, 09:21 AM

I have a better idea. How about the default is we DON'T see swearwords or their placeholders at all, which would leave much of the screen blank when you talk.

Then, if we felt some craving, some desperate need, to see obscenity-laden drivel on the screen, we could option it ON.

And have an auto-ignore function for people who used certain word combinations, too, that they used to bypass the sewer-mouth filters.

Canaris · 2012-02-16, 10:47 AM

heheh I just had an ideawhere everyone wins, instead of the usual **** that comes up when you swear, instead it changes the word to something else.

Angryman: /tell CampingN00b: "I'm going to bathing salt you right in the Nice bunch of flowers you camping Garden Gnome!!!!!

CampingN00b: /tell Angryman: lol WUT?

Angryman: /tell CampingN00b: SOE just trolled me.....

Firefly · 2012-02-16, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Traak

I have a better idea. How about the default is we DON'T see swearwords or their placeholders at all, which would leave much of the screen blank when you talk.

Then, if we felt some craving, some desperate need, to see obscenity-laden drivel on the screen, we could option it ON.

And have an auto-ignore function for people who used certain word combinations, too, that they used to bypass the sewer-mouth filters.

Yeah, Captain Jesus, most games have this as a default setting. Relax, go back to hanging on your cross.

Graywolves · 2012-02-16, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Canaris

Angryman: /tell CampingN00b: "I'm going to bathing salt you right in the Nice bunch of flowers you camping Garden Gnome!!!!!

CampingN00b: /tell Angryman: lol WUT?

Angryman: /tell CampingN00b: SOE just trolled me.....

Best idea ever

Captain1nsaneo · 2012-02-16, 04:04 PM

Offending people stopped being a consideration when laws about assault and battery started to be enforced. For a quick example of what happens when they aren't enforced, I stopped flipping people off after I got shot for it. For a more on topic example, my history teacher in high school told us of one time he was having lunch in a park with some friends when a kid started running his mouth. A man ran over to the kid and started kicking his shit in. Afterwords my teacher went over and asked the guy what was going on. He replied that if the kid wanted to use adult language then he should be ready to take responsibility for the consequences.

Mightymouser · 2012-02-16, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by IDukeNukeml

The thing I don't understand is that swear words are defined socially. If I were to say "pormong!" and you didn't understand it, you wouldn't take offense to it... but since everyone says "fuck" is a bad word, the entire world is like OOOOOOOOOOOH HE CAN'T MAKE THAT SOUND BECAUSE IT'S BADDDDDDD...... that's just fucking retarded... it's just another vibration created by my vocal cords.....

This is a rather silly stand point; obviously the words themselves aren't offensive. Whether spoken or written, it's not the sound waves or the arrangement of pixels that gives offense; it's the prearranged understanding of the meaning of the words that gives offense.

That is to say, if you use a swearword from a language I don't understand. That has no effect on me (obviously), except that which I can understand from your tone/body language. However, if you use a word which you and I both know is intended to give offense, then both you and I know you have just given me offense... That's the point of the words, and the point of society setting 'offensive' words apart.

Now obviously some words, in some contexts, have various levels of offensiveness. If I say, "This fucking Chinese food is delicious!" That's not meant to give offense, clearly. Now, if I say, "You fucking Chinese fucks are fucking bastards!" Clearly there the intention is to offend. Hence, the use is 'offensive.' Not because my vocal cords vibrated in a specific manner, but because I used words in a context which was understood by both parties to be offensive (assuming the 'Chinese fucks' understand English). That's basically a fundamental cornerstone of language, and society in general. This is also why I think kids shouldn't swear, as they are less likely to understand how to properly use words in an offensive/non-offensive context.

As for censorship in-game... I guess I'll be the one to say I get 'offended' by people spewing 'offensive' things in general chat. I'm not talking about someone using swear words, but rather people genuinely being offensive. (I think most of us here are capable of understanding the difference) For me, it comes down to the fact that I play this game for fun, I don't play it to deal with people spewing vile, hateful, bigotry, etc in a general chat channel. Sure I can /ignore, but let's not pretend that when someone's being disruptive in the channel it's just that one person, their shit takes over the whole channel, as everyone responds to them... So I certainly agree there should be moderation/censorship in games. War game or not, this is supposed to be a form of entertainment; and I don't appreciate having to deal with such shit as a side-effect of just playing a game I enjoy.