I'm going to miss the old base fights

[diLLa]

It's confirmed that all bases will have a unique LAYOUT, not necessarily unique in looks.

Besides, the gameplay on E3 is exactly 1 base of 1 continent. Yet some of you act like all bases are confirmed as open bases.

I don't understand how you can already claim that the bases are bad in PS2 if you have only truly seen 1.

[MrBloodworth]

Originally Posted by WildVS

Doubt that will represent a substantial level of uniqueness. Move around a box or 2 here or there maybe.

It does quite well.

[Eyeklops]

Originally Posted by Bags

I am going to miss the laggy, skilless AOE spam fests too!

Originally Posted by Bags

Uh, we've only seen the insides of two, maybe three bases, and all of them have unique interior designs as per Arclegger on TB's stream.

It's a bit early to make that claim don't ya think?

Bags, your reading my mind again...GET OUT!!!

[Figment]

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

Pretty much everything you mentioned a role you performed in a stealth suit, you could do better and safer in armor. Except maybe the router placement and the CY vehicle jacking. Half of those take place outside of the terrible bases.

After the pistol pass I absolutely merc'd fools as a cloaker. It wasn't my favorite setup, I usually preferred to drive/gun a tank, but I played a bit of everything.

In my experience there were 2 types of infiltrators. The ones I killed, and the ones someone else killed.

Hahaha better and safer in armour. *snickers* yeah, you tap-crouch in a rexo through a back door defense or walk around in spawns full of enemies while CEing the spawn tubes and see how that works out for you.

Sorry for not taking you serious, but you honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

[Aurmanite]

Originally Posted by Figment

Hahaha better and safer in armour. *snickers* yeah, you tap-crouch in a rexo through a back door defense or walk around in spawns full of enemies while CEing the spawn tubes and see how that works out for you.

Sorry for not taking you serious, but you honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

I think you greatly over estimate your own abilities.

[Raymac]

Yeah the base interiors were the thing I got bored of the fastest in Planetside 1. Fighting in the same stairwell over and over and over got sooo boring. It got to the point where I wouldn't even go inside anymore. I'd help take the CY in my Reaver, then once we had that secured I would fly patrols to fight off any reinforcements coming in from another base.

I couldn't be more thrilled that they completely redesigned the bases, and it's made even better by the fact that each base will be unique.

[MrBloodworth]

Originally Posted by WildVS

You in beta already?

You think this is a new invention?

[Figment]

Originally Posted by diLLa

It's confirmed that all bases will have a unique LAYOUT, not necessarily unique in looks.

Besides, the gameplay on E3 is exactly 1 base of 1 continent. Yet some of you act like all bases are confirmed as open bases.

I don't understand how you can already claim that the bases are bad in PS2 if you have only truly seen 1.

They have also confirmed there are no vast underground structures already and they prefer a "barracks" and "dispersed outdoor building" setup. Beyond that, there would be some bases with more enclosed walls, but if you look at the layouts of bases visible on the Indar map, nothing spectacularly different.

They also said they already removed the idea of base shields having to be disabled with separate generators and of course Art. Int. turrets because they didn't like the idea of players having to deal with some strategical PvE elements rather than pure 100% PvP. That removes content for saboteur-type infiltrators and simplifies the game more towards slugfest. Removing a CY shield is for an infil after all the equivalent of dropping the drawbridge.



So yeah, they'll look different and layouts will be different, but I don't forsee major differences in gameplay methodology beyond that some may be more verticaly oriented than others for instance.

[Kalbuth]

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

I think you greatly over estimate your own abilities.

Honestly, the guy was a PITA

[Figment]

Originally Posted by Aurmanite

I think you greatly over estimate your own abilities.

No. You underestimate carreer infils because you've been a casual infil at most.

[Aurmanite]

Originally Posted by Figment

No. You underestimate carreer infils because you've been a casual infil at most.

There's no such thing as a career in a video game.

I've seen some really badass cloakers in my day. I played with Raging Primates and watched osp420 going wild. My opinion of cloaking was formed having witnessed this first hand.

Cloaking will be much, much better in #2.

EDIT:

I want to make sure you know that I'm not saying you weren't a great player, Figment. I'm sure you stood knee deep in a pile of kicked ass. I'm merely being real about the limitations Planetside had. Bad base design amplified other problems with classes/roles/how the fight played out.

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[infinite loop]

I will absolutely not miss the spamfest bottlenecks from PS, for the same reason I hate playing Operation Metro in BF3. That said, I prefer infantry combat and am a bit concerned that this is going to turn out to be a vehicle-combat heavy game. It needs to find a balance to appeal to the broadest audience possible.

I do like the overall design of the bases we've seen so far except for 2 key things:

- It looks like there is only one barracks/spawn room for the team holding the base. If so, that thing is going to be spammed so hard there will be little chance of defending the base after your team has lost the "courtyard". I would like to see maybe one spawn point per capturable area, but only allow the team that holds the base to spawn on it if they also hold that point. Maybe even have a spawn point internal to the main building that doesn't have external doors.
- I like the vehicle terms being indoors, but it is a bit too open. If base defense is going to require a strong defensive vehicle presence, then the defending team needs to actually have a chance to pull vehicles.

I prefer the "urban style" combat of modern fps games, where I can move from cover to cover and stay away from vehicles for the most part. I'd like to think infantry have a chance to do something useful in PS2 besides being reaver fodder.

[AgtPanda]

I still have my hopes up for the bio lab. That giant dome looks like it houses a rainforest and I want to see how that plays out.

[GreatMazinkaise]

I miss the well-lit interiors... were they trying to save on their power bills during that nightfight yesterday?