Feel a little betrayed by tech test - Page 9

Sledgecrushr · 2012-07-22, 12:32 PM

Some vets sound like you had a horrible time playing ps1. If you were having fun and didnt mind the 15$ a month subscription fee then you need to stop bitching about all the hard times soe put you through.

Revanmug · 2012-07-22, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by PrISM

If you outsiders realized what veterans have had to put up with from SOE over the last nine years, you'd see things differently.

huh, I didn't know SOE force you to play a game you didn't like. Sounds brutal

vVRedOctoberVv · 2012-07-22, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by PrISM

If you outsiders realized what veterans have had to put up with from SOE over the last nine years, you'd see things differently.

That's one of the most pretentious things I've seen on these forums yet. Get over yourself. If it's so terrible, go someplace else. People bitching and whining about their video games never cease to amaze me...

SgtMAD · 2012-07-22, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Sledgecrushr

Some vets sound like you had a horrible time playing ps1. If you were having fun and didnt mind the 15$ a month subscription fee then you need to stop bitching about all the hard times soe put you through.

and you are one of EP's guys?

I'll have to talk to him about what is going on,I do know the guy pretty good

a lot of us old school vets played PS for years in spite of all the crap SOE pulled on us,we put up with silly nerfs,ridiculous buffs and vehs no one ever asked for while having to endure game fracturing bugs like the term bug,doors bugged and being subjected to hackers yet we still played because the feel of having an outfit all fighting together as a large group in an open world where you could pick different options at any time couldn't be found in other games.

until now

moosepoop · 2012-07-22, 12:45 PM

your tears only make my penis harder.

JointReef · 2012-07-22, 01:10 PM

I highly doubt there even would be a PS2 if it wasn't for a lot of the Vets.. If it wasn't for the few 100 people who kept playing, Planetside would of been a long forgotten name and we wouldn't even be talking about a Tech test / Beta its these people's dedication to Planetside that has got us to this point.

There was never meant to be a PS2 and Planetside 1 was never meant to go on for as long as it has.

I am a vet since 2003 but I stopped playing around 2005 game back for few months a year, There are people on these forums who have played every day since 2003.

I for 1 thank these people for there dedication to the game and the revival of the series. So many people on these forums don't seem to know how many REAL problems Planetside had in-game and financially for SOE

Your all faaaaar luckier than any of you think

Ratstomper · 2012-07-22, 01:10 PM

I'm a PS1 vet. I don't like either side in this thread. The majority of posts are "I'm a vet and I deserve to be angry because of it" or "I'm not a vet and I think vets are idiots".

Suffice to say, there's a certain amount of...confusion... caused by some of the information the dev team released. I've read at least one dev's (Arclegger) stance on this in stream chat; that the tech test is a form of beta. Maybe he clegged it up, but logically tech test is the first step of beta. I understand the frustration of some vets. Seeing some of the NDA breakers streams makes you wonder why they let random people in who "Just happened to get the e-mail" as opposed to someone who has been sticking with the franchise and is actually passionate about the game. SoE can do what they want, but it DOES seem slightly unfair in certain ways. I'm not sure if picking out the real vets was nonviable or what...At any rate, there are clearly people in the tech test taking up spots who didn't really know/care about the game (and, lets face it; are complete morons) at all and they got in before the people who allegedly had priority access for beta.

That said, the dev team has been incredibly good to the community. They've gone above and beyond the standard for what game developers typically do and I think that lends them a TON of credibility and trustworthiness. I MAY be more inclined to feel like the OP if that wasn't the case. I think this whole issue may be something to blame on the practicality of what the beta process is, not necessarily the dev team or SoE. Their job is to make a great game, and as long as they're doing that, I can't fault them.

TL;DR: Everyone chill out. It sucks that people who don't really care got in beta, but there's not much that can be done about it now. No reason to get mad.

Ranik Ortega · 2012-07-22, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by PrISM

If you outsiders realized what veterans have had to put up with from SOE over the last nine years, you'd see things differently.

TRUTH. And i stopped playing after 4 years. So i only know some of that pain.

proxy · 2012-07-22, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by PrISM

If you outsiders realized what veterans have had to put up with from SOE over the last nine years, you'd see things differently.

I played Everquest for years and years (at least 7), AND PS1: Should I be in tech test before you?

That would make my heart grow 3 sizes that day...

I hope you don't act this way IRL.

Ranik Ortega · 2012-07-22, 01:27 PM

Originally Posted by proxy

I played Everquest for years and years (at least 7), AND PS1: Should I be in tech test before you?

That would make my heart grow 3 sizes that day...

I hope you don't act this way IRL.

This isn't directed at you but, Entitled is the newest industry buzz word.

You think you deserve a game with a decent ending like we promised? You entitled little prick.

You think veterans should get in first like we promised because you supported the game for 9 years? God you PS1 vets are entitled elitists.

Seriously stop using the word "entitled". Every time you use it i laugh at you just as i laugh at blizz/biodrones.

There are some valid arguments in here so stop the "QQ more entitled baby" stuff. It's making you look like 12 year old CoD kiddies.

proxy · 2012-07-22, 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by Ratstomper

I'm a PS1 vet. I don't like either side in this thread. The majority of posts are "I'm a vet and I deserve to be angry because of it" or "I'm not a vet and I think vets are idiots".

Suffice to say, there's a certain amount of...confusion... caused by some of the information the dev team released. I've read at least one dev's (Arclegger) stance on this in stream chat; that the tech test is a form of beta. Maybe he clegged it up, but logically tech test is the first step of beta. I understand the frustration of some vets. Seeing some of the NDA breakers streams makes you wonder why they let random people in who "Just happened to get the e-mail" as opposed to someone who has been sticking with the franchise and is actually passionate about the game. SoE can do what they want, but it DOES seem slightly unfair in certain ways. I'm not sure if picking out the real vets was nonviable or what...At any rate, there are clearly people in the tech test taking up spots who didn't really know/care about the game (and, lets face it; are complete morons) at all and they got in before the people who allegedly had priority access for beta.

That said, the dev team has been incredibly good to the community. They've gone above and beyond the standard for what game developers typically do and I think that lends them a TON of credibility and trustworthiness. I MAY be more inclined to feel like the OP if that wasn't the case. I think this whole issue may be something to blame on the practicality of what the beta process is, not necessarily the dev team or SoE. Their job is to make a great game, and as long as they're doing that, I can't fault them.

TL;DR: Everyone chill out. It sucks that people who don't really care got in beta, but there's not much that can be done about it now. No reason to get mad.

I agree.

I think this is most likely a case of "one hand not knowing what the other is doing".

On the one hand you want every dev to be on the same page, you want to control every message that leaves the office.

On the other hand you want these devs building hype and promoting your game on social media 24/7.

One thing I have learned trying to get groups of people on message is that it is very, very hard.

They should talk to FOXNEWS. Those guys are special forces on message.

Originally Posted by Ranik Ortega

This isn't directed at you but, Entitled is the newest industry buzz word.

You think you deserve a game with a decent ending like we promised? You entitled little prick.

You think veterans should get in first like we promised because you supported the game for 9 years? God you PS1 vets are entitled elitists.

Seriously stop using the word "entitled". Every time you use it i laugh at you just as i laugh at blizz/biodrones.

There are some valid arguments in here so stop the "QQ more entitled baby" stuff. It's making you look like 12 year old CoD kiddies.

Did I say entitled? I was giving a different perspective and asking a question. Maybe you should read it again.

Rivenshield · 2012-07-22, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by HtSgtMAD

a lot of us old school vets played PS for years in spite of all the crap SOE pulled on us,we put up with silly nerfs,ridiculous buffs and vehs no one ever asked for while having to endure game fracturing bugs like the term bug,doors bugged and being subjected to hackers yet we still played because the feel of having an outfit all fighting together as a large group in an open world where you could pick different options at any time couldn't be found in other games.

until now

Bang on the money.

/salute

Ranik Ortega · 2012-07-22, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by proxy

Did I say entitled?

My edit was supposed to have a "this isn't addressed at you in particular". Forum seems to have applied it and then removed it.

proxy · 2012-07-22, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by HtSgtMAD

and you are one of EP's guys?

I'll have to talk to him about what is going on,I do know the guy pretty good

a lot of us old school vets played PS for years in spite of all the crap SOE pulled on us,we put up with silly nerfs,ridiculous buffs and vehs no one ever asked for while having to endure game fracturing bugs like the term bug,doors bugged and being subjected to hackers yet we still played because the feel of having an outfit all fighting together as a large group in an open world where you could pick different options at any time couldn't be found in other games.

until now

Here is my question to you:

Did you play this game with the idea you would reap early entry to the sequel? Seriously, for years I would check once or twice annually if there was going to be PS2 and for years, they said "no plans".

You played because PS1 was different, unique, right? Isn't that reward itself?

Originally Posted by Ranik Ortega

My edit was supposed to have a "this isn't addressed at you in particular". Forum seems to have applied it and then removed it.

Then why quote me?

I was asking him if my "suffering at the hands of SOE" at two games was greater than his 1. I also didn't like his "outsiders" comment.

Its sillygoosery.

Littleman · 2012-07-22, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by proxy

Here is my question to you:

Did you play this game with the idea you would reap early entry to the sequel? Seriously, for years I would check once or twice annually if there was going to be PS2 and for years, they said "no plans".

You played because PS1 was different, unique, right? Isn't that reward itself?

People need to understand:

We're greedy, selfish, and love Planetside to bits, and will cling to every little thing that improves our chances on getting into Planetside 2 sooner rather than later. This includes the "promise" to PS1 vets.

People call us entitled. People call us brats: they're just taking the high road. In truth everyone wants in ASAP. Calling people out as entitled really just deserves the response, "No #!%, Sherlock."

I'd rather not wait if I can help it.