News: PC Gamer April Issue with Beta Key

[etheral]

Originally Posted by Mightymouser

From a 'what we're owed' stand point I'd agree. I don't think anyone (worth listening to) is actually claiming we have some legal right to special treatment in PS2. On the other hand, in terms of ability to play test the game, and understand it's particulars, long time PS players certainly have insights which non-PS players likely do not. I'm not saying that every PS1-vet's feedback should outweigh any non-vet's feedback; rather I'm noting that there are many players from PS1 who have a great deal better understanding of how the only game like PS2 (i.e., PS1) works, than someone off the street. Also, long time vets have proven a devotion to the game which is important when considering a playtester's feedback. Many playtesters play the beta and never even buy the released game; these folks shouldn't be determining the style of the game for die-hard PS players who have proven a devotion to the PS franchise.


Yes, PS2 is going to be different from PS1; however, since the latter is largely based off the former, it's reasonable to assume there are going to be many overlapping areas. Therefore it is certainly reasonable to say that veteran PS1 players will have greater insight into how PS2 should be developed. I'd draw an equivalency to two CR5's arguing over how a fight should go in PS1; one who is a multi-year veteran CR5, and the other who just got his backpack. The older CR5 likely has a much greater understanding of how the fight will progress, and can foresee how certain events will unfold much better than the new CR5. I think that same idea can carry over to the new game, in that older vets can look at a situation and have a better idea how that situation will work out in the long run, as opposed to someone who has only played standard FPSes (or standard MMORPGs). Obviously, you get good players and bad in both cases; but I think on the whole, long time PS1 vets are more likely to provide insightful feedback.


All of that said; we don't really know what they're going to do until they tell us more, so we'll just have to wait and see...

I can see the sense of that

However, we know next to nothing about the nitty gritty of PS2's gameplay (though i imagine this will soon change), so it may be that most of what us PS1 vets learned over the years is useless in the context of PS2. The only real advantage guys like us would have over a completely new player is organisational skill.

[Soothsayer]

Originally Posted by NewSith

Nah the point is, I'm from Europe, but I have some relatives in Canada, so I was wondering if I can ask them to send me the issue.

Ask them to go to a "Chapters" or "Indigo" and they will find PCGamer magazines in those stores. Its the nation-wide chain and I guarantee they'll stock them.

[NewSith]

Shit, I can't sleep now. DAMN IT!

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Soothsayer

Ask them to go to a "Chapters" or "Indigo" and they will find PCGamer magazines in those stores. Its the nation-wide chain and I guarantee they'll stock them.

Thank you very much, good sir!

EDIT:
I can't figure out if I need that magazine. Too much confusion! I still don't understand if unsubbed PS1 players will enter the first beta stage. And if they do, will it be like 100% of the PS1 players who bought the original game?
Arggggghhhh... *ANGER*CONFUSION*

[Whoknowswhat1]

Originally Posted by KALU

somehow i dont think the numbers will be that great all in one spot although it would be interesting. I will be happy with the numbers we had in PS1 i.e: 300x300x300 at peak

At one point one of the Devs said something along the lines of "Thousands of players battling for a singe objective"

I think it would be safe to assume that that would be more than 300 Cubed

[KALU]

hahahaha This post in on FIRE!!!! loving it!

Its like the night before Christmas!!!!

[SniperSteve]

only everyone gets presents regardless if they are good or bad, lol.

[waldizzo]

I'm very much looking forward to everyone getting their hands on the beta. So many questions will be answered in such a short period of time. Can finally start getting some videos out (assuming no restrictive NDA) and get some fan generated hype going. Good times ahead!

[joemonkey]

Originally Posted by Whoknowswhat1

At one point one of the Devs said something along the lines of "Thousands of players battling for a singe objective"

I think it would be safe to assume that that would be more than 300 Cubed

300 cubed = 27,000,000 so yeah....I can hope for that as well, but I dunno

[Hermes]

This thread has been growing faster than my tired eyes can read... desperately seeking the end so I can post and then get some sleep.

*ahem*

Hurray!

[RadarX]

We are very glad to see everyone so excited about the PC Gamer cover and Beta keys. I'm seeing a lot of speculation and rumor flying around in this thread. Danicia has cleared up everything we'll be able to at the moment. We will of course provide more information as it becomes available.

[Whoknowswhat1]

Originally Posted by joemonkey

300 cubed = 27,000,000 so yeah....I can hope for that as well, but I dunno

300 cubed meaning 300x300x300 instead of 300v300v300. i thought it was a sick way of saying it lol.

[BigBossMonkey]

Originally Posted by RadarX

We are very glad to see everyone so excited about the PC Gamer cover and Beta keys. I'm seeing a lot of speculation and rumor flying around in this thread. Danicia has cleared up everything we'll be able to at the moment. We will of course provide more information as it becomes available.

I just wish you could say when it actually starts

[Tigersmith]

Originally Posted by BigBossMonkey

I just wish you could say when it actually starts

be patient

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by BigBossMonkey

I just wish you could say when it actually starts

I honestly think they can't say for sure themselves. I won't be surprised if the beta doesn't start with the PCG issue, but rather gives you the key for later access.

Yeah, /flameon