People need to focus on all the weapons, not jsut one

1024 · 2003-06-23, 06:26 PM

I hear people talking about how the jackhammer kills infantry in about 2 shots up close(who hasen't), but have they noticed that the lancer has the same ability?

The lancer can kill infantry up close in about 2 or 3 shots, just like the jackhammer. Why are they only whining about the jackhammer, when the lancer has the same "problem"?

Hamma · 2003-06-23, 06:29 PM

hehe all the recent talk about the JH created this thread:

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/p...ML/002705.html

We appreciate feedback from our community and take it very seriously. However, even the range of human opinion has its limits. We have heard the Jackhammer feedback and the issue is under evaluation right along with continual weapon balance in general. I am making a formal request of the community to trust us in having heard your opinions and taking them into consideration.
However, the subject of the Jackhammer is way out of hand. Can we cut down on these threads so that other feedback has the chance to stay in the early pages of the forum? I have no problem with somebody starting an official Jackhammer thread, but excessive posts on the subject will be locked from here on out.

Nothing I have said here implies any action or inaction on the subject. Only that we hear you and we'd like to see other topics get their fair representation as well.

Victor Wachter
Community Relations Representative
Many questions can be answered by reading the PlanetSide Game Info and FAQ

Bottleneck · 2003-06-23, 06:51 PM

The lancer has a much longer delay on firing and isnt "point in general direction...shoot" type weapon, you actually have to aim. As it stands jackhammer is so seriously overbalancing the battlefield people are deleting there vanu/terran toons to make NC shottie clones. This of course is leading to the up to 10% penalties for NC players across the servers (wich really needs upped, 10% big woop). Frankly whenever I come across a really hot spot battle with NC involved I put on a set of reinforced clear my inv and just go mass loot nc corpses, I have a locker full of jackhammers now so I dont care

Drunken Chicken · 2003-06-23, 07:12 PM

If you read the official forums, you'd think that the average PS player has an intelligence somewhere between dashboard grime and the stuff that grows in my tub.

1024 · 2003-06-23, 07:21 PM

Originally posted by Bottleneck
The lancer has a much longer delay on firing and isnt "point in general direction...shoot" type weapon, you actually have to aim. As it stands jackhammer is so seriously overbalancing the battlefield people are deleting there vanu/terran toons to make NC shottie clones. This of course is leading to the up to 10% penalties for NC players across the servers (wich really needs upped, 10% big woop). Frankly whenever I come across a really hot spot battle with NC involved I put on a set of reinforced clear my inv and just go mass loot nc corpses, I have a locker full of jackhammers now so I dont care

Thats becuase the jackhammer is a shotgun. It's supposed to be a general-direction-fire-hit, weapon. This is one of teh strong points of the NC, which was intened from the start. The lancer may require more aim, but at least you deal the same amount of damge if you're trying to hit someone 10 meters in front of you with it, where as the jackhammer you have to get up in somoen'sface to deal maximum damge. This is also a concept with other weapons also, liek an infiltrator using an AMP, who awants to get up close so even when his COF gets big, hes still hitting his target, no matter waht.

Originally posted by Drunken Chicken
If you read the official forums, you'd think that the average PS player has an intelligence somewhere between dashboard grime and the stuff that grows in my tub.

This is frightenly true. A lot of peopel just get mad and go on a flaming frenzy, without even think about the alternitives...

JakeLogan · 2003-06-23, 07:25 PM

Well the reason no one complains about the lancer is becasue it takes some skill to aim. While the jackhammer is a point and shoot. its the fact that 9 out of 10 NC have them thats what makes it annoying. The other reason is because in comparison the other Heavy assault weapons really suck. Thats the main reason you get so many complaints about the jackhammer.

Now I get the fact that the JH does that its just that the other HA weapons don't really have there own area where they do best. The chain gun you also have to get in there face but when you do get in there face the 4 NC carrying jackhammers get you.

1024 · 2003-06-23, 07:28 PM

Originally posted by 1024
Thats becuase the jackhammer is a shotgun. It's supposed to be a general-direction-fire-hit, weapon.

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The lancer may require more aim, but at least you deal the same amount of damge if you're trying to hit someone 10 meters in front of you with it, where as the jackhammer you have to get up in somoen's face to deal maximum damge.

^^^^^ Did you not read this??? ^^^^^

negate · 2003-06-23, 07:39 PM

The lancer can kill infantry up close in about 2 or 3 shots, just like the jackhammer. Why are they only whining about the jackhammer, when the lancer has the same "problem"?

You obviously never played Vanu side lol.

Masurao · 2003-06-23, 08:04 PM

In the JH's defense most of the kills are from people that run through base tunnels without stoping to see what's goinging on.

I sat in an alcove and killed 20 somthing people that kept running by me. Never even took a hit

The JH is easy to use. The lancer and the sweeper are not and besides they are not shotguns. DEV's should bring stuff up instead of nurfing them.

MilitantB0B · 2003-06-23, 08:09 PM

You know whats going to happed? The jackhammer is curretnly geared for indoor combat. It is excellent indoors and down right uselesss outdoors. The reason it is so annoying is because all the important fighting takes place indoors. Whats going to happen is, the devs are going to nerf the JH making it good indoors instead of excellent. Then they are going to implement changes that make outdoor fighting alot more prominent and important (like they said they would). Then the Jackhammer is going to be a bad waste of 4 cert points because it will be good indoors and terrible outdoors, in a time when outdoor fighting is much more important. Mark my words.

HawkEye · 2003-06-23, 08:15 PM

omg nother freaking JH thread. do u guys not get it. a tri-barreled auto shotty is gonna kick ur ass if ur on recieving end, especially when ur really close, it is supposed to do alot of damage, and if goes with the NC waepons philophy, there waepons deal out greater damage. so stop complaining and all u non NC's that complain bout JH can cert in Heavy assult and loot a jackhammer and then u couold use it and get a lot of kills. SO STFU and stop complaining about jackhammer.

negate · 2003-06-23, 08:34 PM

^^ lol looks like someone is getting upset they might have to aim soon

SumYungGui · 2003-06-23, 08:34 PM

ok, lets focus on all the weapons and not just one. done yet? so when are vanu going to get fixed?

Revolver · 2003-06-23, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by negate
^^ lol looks like something is getting upset they might have to aim soon

and so the flaming begins *sigh*

Ceiba · 2003-06-23, 09:24 PM

Have you ever tried to shoot someone up close with a lancer? When I tried that cert I killed more friendlies than anything else. Anyone who can hit thier target with it is very skilled in my book. And the JH, Spork already said they are taking a look at it. I just wish the Vanu HA cert was cloe to being as good as the JH.