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Old 2003-07-08, 12:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
Tryndamere
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I heard that a sizable portion of the PS playerbase "cheats" by purposely altering the frequency of their packet updates with the server, or otherwise altering their lag so they can appear to lag to other people while they kill you.

This is apparently made possible because causing damage to others is handled by the client.

My question is WTF is wrong with those people who cheat, and WTF is Sony going to do about this?
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Old 2003-07-08, 12:45 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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My guess is that SOe are working on the solustion and are using the ones donig it now as guiniepiggs to see if it stops them.

and whne the do BANNAGE!
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Old 2003-07-08, 01:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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they did fix it sorta. Any time some use the lag cheat a pop box comes up saying you have lost packs
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Old 2003-07-08, 01:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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yeah ive def had some o0f those fools cap me a few times...suxxors out teh wazoo
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Old 2003-07-08, 02:00 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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about the lost packets


I don't know if the lost packes was to fix that cheat. I have also had that message pop up telling me my computer has lost packets and it may take a few minutes for it to catch back up with the system. I do not use this lag cheat or any of that crap. I play games as is, expecially online games. I may cheat with a single player game, because that is my game. I don't effect anyone elses game play then. I hope that SOE is not thinking that I am cheating. I hate the lag that I get during game play. I don't know why either. I have a cable modem connection and a damn fast pc. Oh well.

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Old 2003-07-08, 03:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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They will fix it, thats one of the advantages to paying. There is a large team of guys stopping cheaters
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Old 2003-07-08, 03:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Has any one though, that this might just be a haox?
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Old 2003-07-08, 03:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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I haven't played in a while, overall has the server lag gotten better?

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Old 2003-07-08, 03:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Re: Cheaters


Originally posted by Tryndamere
I heard that a sizable portion of the PS playerbase "cheats" by purposely altering the frequency of their packet updates with the server, or otherwise altering their lag so they can appear to lag to other people while they kill you.

This is apparently made possible because causing damage to others is handled by the client.

My question is WTF is wrong with those people who cheat, and WTF is Sony going to do about this?

First thing, 99% of accusations about this do not involve any cheating at all.. just the complainant/complainer/both having (usually temporary) lag or connection problems. There may be a FEW who manipulate this deliberately but to claim any more is just scare-mongering.

It's happened to all of us.. usually when you get run over by a vehicle you havn't even seen. You can only give people the benefit of the doubt, and ignore anyone who hurls "cheat" accusations at you.. it's happened to me on a couple of occasions. You get killed in that way ? Live with it.. until we all have perfect connections it will happen. At all costs leave the client-side code alone - the server-side alternative would be an absolute lag nightmare, and would become totally unplayable for many. No MMPOG has server-side code.. it's pretty much been consigned to history now (except Raven Shield, anyway ) .

Sony have been pretty good to date with fixing any cheats as they come along - usually in a few days.
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Old 2003-07-08, 04:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Re: about the lost packets


Originally posted by FireWolf22
I don't know if the lost packes was to fix that cheat. I have also had that message pop up telling me my computer has lost packets and it may take a few minutes for it to catch back up with the system. I do not use this lag cheat or any of that crap. I play games as is, expecially online games. I may cheat with a single player game, because that is my game. I don't effect anyone elses game play then. I hope that SOE is not thinking that I am cheating. I hate the lag that I get during game play. I don't know why either. I have a cable modem connection and a damn fast pc. Oh well.
I get that somethimes too... If that is a cheat I do it unintentionally. Anyway to fix it?
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Old 2003-07-08, 04:41 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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There's a big difference between people who have lag issues and people who packet push (ie. intentionally lag at certain times.) It's easy to tell the difference, though.

I like being called a cheater, though. It's a nice compliment after you mop the floor with someone.
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Old 2003-07-08, 05:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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ya, yesterday someone called me a cheater because i hit him with a pheonix while he was jump jetting

also had someone say my noobhammer was ruining the game when i killed him in an open field with a pheonix....i didnt even have a jackhammer...

also, theres a cheat to land on a pop lock cont...dont know it yet but my friends do it to join battles
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Old 2003-07-08, 09:54 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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that ones not really cheating
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Old 2003-07-08, 10:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Find waypoint + waypoint placed on map of locked continent = you zoom in on your waypoint and are able to drop

It's a stupid exploit that will probly never be fixed, same goes for the sniper can see infils and gamma exploit.
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Old 2003-07-08, 10:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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ppl who cheat the game r just mad cause they gety pwned all th3 time.if everybody knew who did it every1 from every side would stop fighting each0th3 and attack the ppl.
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