Before you talk about another Empire's weapons...

VictoryRose · 2003-07-18, 09:32 AM

Have you used them...a lot? People say the Striker is really good, and it is, but not as good as the non-TR empires make it out to be. People also say that the Jackhammer is overpowered, and it may be, but not as much as people say. I know the Striker has many drawbacks (not very high damage, always takes about 4 shots to kill a max at full health, plus the lock-on is very easily disrupted) and the Jackhammer has them as well (I assume that the weapon goes to hell outdoors, much like the mini-chain gun probably does because of its low accuracy). Just because you die to a weapon a lot does not mean it is overpowered. It just means that a lot of people are using that weapon. Yeah if you are fighting TR and are a Max you will probably die to a lot of Strikers, but if you are an infantry fighting NC you will die to a lot of Jackhammers because it's just what the empire has to choose from.

The only thing I noticed that is overpowered is the Magrider. I don't really mind as much as I should because it is a big thing the Vanu have going for them and with their low numbers they need a big killer, but I mean...it's just bugged. You don't even have to be hit to die because of the way the system reads it's size and location. Same with an AMS, hehe. Those can be deadly.

All I am saying is complaining is unnessecary. These boards show it much....MUCH less than the official PlanetSide boards, but I know if I post over there all the replies will just be childish complaints/flames. Can't we all just get along and have some fun

P.S. I realize how badly this flows. I was just thinking and writing. SMILEY!!!

Happy lil Elf · 2003-07-18, 10:50 AM

...don't even have to be hit to die because of the way the system reads it's size...

......../twitch

Gabsux · 2003-07-18, 10:57 AM

I think a great deal of people do use them a lot. For instance, my main is VS(BR20 on emerald), but I also have a TR(BR18 on Johari). I play NC on two servers: Werner and Konried. However, I am only BR10 and BR9 on those two servers. My builds are basically the same across the empires: HA, AV, Reinf, Med, Eng, one-veh (the rest is flavor of the day). I am split across NC�one being HA and the other being AV. All that said�striker, Jackhammer, and the Magrider are overpowered relative to other AV�s, HA�s, and tanks, respectively. This isn�t a rant because overall I think the empires are fairly balanced.

The magrider is crazy deadly because its amazing movement and it being a tank, however it is the only overpowered empire �asset� that can be easily countered. It takes only a few CE�s using mines to almost completely remove magriders, or any ground vehicles, from the battlefield. I experienced this from both sides, and it is a fairly easy task to accomplish.

Jackhammer can be countered under certain situations but inside a base or tower, one just has to accept the jackhammer is number 1. I think the enhancements are coming soon, so only time will tell. My feeling is that NC HA should remain number 1 because they don�t have that much. Many VS won�t agree with me but I would rather take a lasher over a jackhammer.

As long as a target is within striker range and there is a line of sight, striker wins hands down. The striker also allows its user to dodge while its being fired which is a huge advantage over the other two AV�s. The striker is the only weapon that I will loot. Heck, an EMPTY striker is still better at keeping vehicles away than a lancer or phoenix with ammo.

Yeah, so what if I replied...I'm bored at work =P.

FearTheAtlas · 2003-07-18, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by Happy lil' Elf
......../twitch

Caspertoo · 2003-07-18, 11:01 AM

Well I aggree 100%, try using a stormhammer in the open, it sucks worse than my dogs butt when I'm cleaning up after him.

Yea the magmower can dish out pain in great quantities when you use it as a john deer, but I find it is easier to kill than the other factions tanks.

And although the striker is one of the most utilitarian weapons (IMO) even I know that if you get locked on, and even if one hits you, if I hit the afterburner on my reaver I can usually cause a miss of the 2nd or 3rd one and make them lose lock on. So it can be dealt with.

Good post.

Vis Armata · 2003-07-18, 11:23 AM

A wolfpack of Vanguards will make quick work of a Magrider.

Madcow · 2003-07-18, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Vis Armata
A wolfpack of Vanguards will make quick work of a Magrider.

So if you have big numbers over an enemy tank with your own tanks you can take it out? Nice.

Vis Armata · 2003-07-18, 01:03 PM

Yeah, who knew...

Seriously, the Magrider is a formidable tank - its mobility and guns are not to be trifled with. I think skilled Magrider crews wreak havoc on the battlefield: direct fire weapons, ability to flank the other tanks easily, water-crossing abilities (among other things). So, killing one with two to three tanks is just an insurance policy on my own tank, I guess.

Revolver · 2003-07-18, 01:19 PM

With direct hits from a vanguard, a Magrider will fall easily.

The problem is getting those direct hits...it's nearly impossible to lead a mag (if the driver is skilled) since it can strafe, slam on the brakes, or back up and there ya go...you missed...

Sleepwalker · 2003-07-18, 01:59 PM

atlas, your sig is like sunshine on a cloudy day.

VictoryRose · 2003-07-18, 02:57 PM

Well, if you think about it, it runs down like this.

Best HA = NC (biggest hit, like the NC should be)

Best AV = TR (fastest firing, like the TR should be)

Best Vehicle = VS (Best technology, like the VS should be)

You have to utilize your empire's strengths. So yeah Jackhammers own Infantry, but who will own the MAXes and the Vehicles? TR will. But then who will own the people killing those vehicles...VS when they run over your ass =/. I think it is balanced very nicely. Of course all of this is up to debate and these are just my personal opinions.

Lonehunter · 2003-07-18, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by VictoryRose
Well, if you think about it, it runs down like this.

Best HA = NC (biggest hit, like the NC should be)

Best AV = TR (fastest firing, like the TR should be)

Best Vehicle = VS (Best technology, like the VS should be)

You have to utilize your empire's strengths. So yeah Jackhammers own Infantry, but who will own the MAXes and the Vehicles? TR will. But then who will own the people killing those vehicles...VS when they run over your ass =/. I think it is balanced very nicely. Of course all of this is up to debate and these are just my personal opinions.

I am stupid

What's HA?

Edit: Wait! Heavy Assault! Nevermind that comment

Queensidecastle · 2003-07-18, 03:40 PM

yeah the Striker is stupid overpowered and the Magrider is not even close to the best tank. I pick both other tanks as better with the Prowler as the winner. Sure it takes "more" to be effective but if you have that "more" you win, every time

Cauldron Borne · 2003-07-18, 07:51 PM

Striker=multi lock missle system; or i see you ur dead.
phoenix=I'm gonna kick ur @$$ from a mile away, around the corner, behind a rock. hehe.
Marider= kicks
Vangaurd= IF i can hit you ur @$$ is mine
Prowler= okay do these things ACCTUALLY exhist? i think i saw ONE and it died to a tk. If they are used in large groups they could be effective, but the vangaurd, in smaller numbers, would own them.

Queensidecastle · 2003-07-18, 08:26 PM

The reason the Prowler ownz the Vanguard is because the Prowler can be firing both guns on the Vanguard simultainiously. Now the Vanguard is the master of suprise. What I mean by this is that if a Vanguard gets the jump on you, your prolly finnished unless your driver is the shit. If both tanks spot each other at the same time and the gunners are all skilled, the Prowler wins