How come the NC aren't kicking butt?

[ps11]

Man how could the NC lose? They have the best tank, best close-up weap. and the gauss. What gives? If I ever do finally get to play this game I'll be a commander and the VS and TR WILL FALL MUHAHA.

[Lonehunter]

The vangaurd is pretty even with the prowler actually. against vehicles that is. The MAGMower is the best tank for infantry. As for the best close range weapon? you gotta see the Lasher for yourself.

[ps11]

Yea but they're gonna change the lasher right? I mean it's not fair to be able to fly, move over water and all that good stuff AND have the best weaps.

[Lonehunter]

Originally posted by ps11
Yea but they're gonna change the lasher right?

[CyberHawke]

I had to check the date on the initial post... seemed like a flame/gripe from the past. Haven't you heard, NC is now the "Neutered Conglomerates".

Shotguns don't win open field battles, and when they take the action away from the CC, Jackhammers and Sweeper Shottys will be favorite weapons of the past.

[J3Ff]

Sporkfire has responded on a lot of lasher posts and has made it clear that they won't be nerfing the new lasher anytime soon. He and the other devs think that the only reason that almost every vs has a lasher is because it just got buffed so everyone is trying it out, instead of seeing how ungodly overpowered it is.

[Eliaas_Demens]

Actually that's true. It's in my honest opinion that all three Heavy Weapons are situationally equal to each other. Lasher vs Jackhammer close up, you're going to see a purple helm hit the floor. If distance is put between those two the Lasher will spank the smurf hard. But try to hit a TR with a chain gun from any reasonable distance with a Jackhammer or a Lasher.

Jackhammer = Short range
Lasher = Medium range
Mini Chain Gun = "Long" range

and the dev's are right. There's a ton more Lasher users on VS than Jackhammers on NC. Once the novelty effect wears off, NC can stop blaming their losses on the Lasher and start fighting back with some reasonable morale.

[Ghost06]

Why do we not win? Because God loves ugly, and I'm beautiful. That and he hates you.

[Katanaboy]

AND have the best weaps.

You're kidding, right? Vanu weapons (save for the lasher) are more difficult than the other empire's to use effectively. Their projectile speed is generally slower (save for the lancer), does less damage, and has less range. Vanu are significantly weaker in the Antivehicular department. While the TR get a homing missle, the NC get a wire-guided missle, the VS get a laser beam that does 1/2-1/3 the damage of a striker. It is moderately difficult to hit moving vehicles with it, due to the CoF bloom (like the bolt driver), and its charge up delay, and even when you catch a vehicle standing still, it does so little damage that the vehicle can just drive away to safety. The beamer is just god-awful, and the pulsar is weaker than the other rifles, has slower projectiles, and is a bit more inaccurate when the cof starts to bloom (the projectiles seem to want to go to the outer rim of the CoF). I still like the challenge of playing the vanu, but we have far from the best weapons...

[Vick]

Originally posted by Katanaboy
You're kidding, right? Vanu weapons (save for the lasher) are more difficult than the other empire's to use effectively. Their projectile speed is generally slower (save for the lancer), does less damage, and has less range. Vanu are significantly weaker in the Antivehicular department. While the TR get a homing missle, the NC get a wire-guided missle, the VS get a laser beam that does 1/2-1/3 the damage of a striker. It is moderately difficult to hit moving vehicles with it, due to the CoF bloom (like the bolt driver), and its charge up delay, and even when you catch a vehicle standing still, it does so little damage that the vehicle can just drive away to safety. The beamer is just god-awful, and the pulsar is weaker than the other rifles, has slower projectiles, and is a bit more inaccurate when the cof starts to bloom (the projectiles seem to want to go to the outer rim of the CoF). I still like the challenge of playing the vanu, but we have far from the best weapons...

Hello, stop being wrong for just a sec, kthx.

Lasher: Great weapon.

Pulsar: Amazing weapon, very accurate, fires quickly, 40 round clip, instant AP mode. It fucking kicks ass, I got 7 kills in a row with it just 15 minutes ago.

Lancer: Takes more skill to use the other HA, but still very effective. Nice aginst infantry also.

Beamer: Try using it as an infil, it is hardly "god awful". It is no AMP, but just as good as other empire pistols. Just use it from medium range, worked great for my VS infiltrator I made just to use it.

I am NC, so besides beamer (made a infil just to use it) and pulsar (love to pick those up), I only know them from the recieving end.

PS: Really though, please try the beamer before talking about it. I used to think of it as a joke also, untill one day I dropped my scatter-mag and it got cloaked bugged. So I looted a pulsar and got 5 kills in a row with it.

PS V2.0: Vanu, your not the underdog anymore. I know you wanted to play the weak empire, so did I. But just because your now equally (if not more) powerful then the other two empires, does not mean you should get a "my empire still has more shitty weapons thus I am more skilled then you, nuub" attitude.

*not naming any names*

[WritheNC]

Sporkfire has responded on a lot of lasher posts and has made it clear that they won't be nerfing the new lasher anytime soon. He and the other devs think that the only reason that almost every vs has a lasher is because it just got buffed so everyone is trying it out, instead of seeing how ungodly overpowered it is.

They said the same thing about the Jackhammer before the MCG and Lasher were upgraded.

But he's right for now. It will be a month or so until everyone settles down.

And then they'll make HA changes again because people won't stop bitching.

If they only did two things, then I wouldn't complain. The lasher doesn't "lash" after a range of 20m or so, and less damage against vehicles. Watching a vanguard or prowler lose momentum on a hill and then seeing 2 people with Lashers pick it apart in 20-30 seconds is just wrong.

[OneArmedScissor]

The lasher is easy to kill. Just get a rocketrifle and the personal shield implant and ure set.