People have forgotten...

AztecWarrior · 2003-07-26, 09:05 PM

...what Communism is.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...evolution_dc_1

Mtx · 2003-07-26, 09:14 PM

Communisum is a good idea. Unfortunately corrupt and greedy people would destroy it given half a chance. As long as there is greed communisum will fail. That and people like to be different.

Maybe make a system inbetween communisum and democracy. We'll call it Canada.

AztecWarrior · 2003-07-26, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Mtx
Communisum is a good idea. Unfortunately corrupt and greedy people would destroy it given half a chance. As long as there is greed communisum will fail. That and people like to be different.

I agree and disagree with you. But I respect your opinion, unlilke *someone* who called me "closed-minded" in IRC.

Onizuka · 2003-07-26, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by Mtx
Communisum is a good idea.

I don't agree. A strong and fair government isn't everything. Communism has been done before in many countries and has failed.

The government shouldnt baby its people, they will become to reliant on the government for aid and the econemy will burn out. We need to work with other countries as well.

WickedDeus · 2003-07-26, 10:16 PM

I think you guys missed the point of what mtx said. If you take the time to read it Communisum is a GREAT idea. I mean think about it...life is fair for everyone. But thats all it is though, just an idea. Why? Because everyone has their own point of view of what is fair. If we were all clones of each other with all the same wants and needs then Communisum would have worked out great.

Onizuka · 2003-07-26, 10:17 PM

we are not all equal.... besides i dont want to stand in line for toilate paper anymore

Ginzue · 2003-07-26, 10:21 PM

Does anyone notice the MTXs name The Mensa Troll, this probly will soon start into a commy thred bashfest...

Onizuka · 2003-07-26, 10:25 PM

/me moves this thread to the political debate forum

i would if i could

Vick · 2003-07-27, 12:01 AM

*Aztec links to that story*
<AztecWarrior> reuters has its head up its ass
<Vick> they cannot have an opinion?
<AztecWarrior> you are a moron, vick
<AztectWarrior> communism is EVIL!!
<Vick> way to be close-minded, go live in your own world then

Lets keep shit in context, thanks.

Squeeky · 2003-07-27, 01:07 AM

Originally posted by Onizuka
/me moves this thread to the political debate forum

i would if i could

I concur.;

Code4 · 2003-07-27, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Mtx
Communisum is a good idea. Unfortunately corrupt and greedy people would destroy it given half a chance. As long as there is greed communisum will fail. That and people like to be different.

Maybe make a system inbetween communisum and democracy. We'll call it Canada.

Good idea if everyone is lazy. If they thing it's only right to make the same pay as someone who has worked harder. Sorry I don't see it merely as greed that someone expects to be compensated for puttting in more work.

Sorry I think the free market system provides more incentive for the people to work harder and better. Not to mention it fosters a greater learning and inventive state. How many inventions for instance can you name from the U.S.S.R. versus the U.S.
The free world tends to lead the way in this. With communism you end up in a stagnant state waiting for new machines or such from the free world to pilfer ideas from.

Lonehunter · 2003-07-27, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by AztecWarrior
people have forgotten what Communism is.

Damn non-commies

Kaltagesta · 2003-07-27, 05:28 PM

[just as a patriotic side note, england has invented EVERYTHING]

the problem is, there would be no incentive to work. you could be crap at your job, but it wouldnt matter because you cant be sacked, or even if you are, you are given another job that you cant do.

However democracy doesnt work either. it is meant to be a group decision, but it isn't. whenever the government [in england anyway] makes a big decision [i cant remember the las ttime we had a refferendum on anything] without a vote, and the people argue, as it is a big decision, they say that they are voted in to make decisions on behalf of the people, which is crap because very few of them are down toearth guys, because they all come from laa-dee-da families. Also, you dont get a choice really. what if you dont like any of the parties? your still fucke,d you might be better off without a government. well, obviously that snot true, there would be complete chaos, but you know what i mean.

Lonehunter · 2003-07-27, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap
[just as a patriotic side note, england has invented EVERYTHING]

Onizuka · 2003-07-27, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by Call-The-Gestap

the problem is, there would be no incentive to work. you could be crap at your job, but it wouldnt matter because you cant be sacked, or even if you are, you are given another job that you cant do.

exactly i forgot to mention that. while demecrocy isnt fullproof, until something better (and actually reasonable) comes along, it is the best.