Magrider overpowered?

Mudflap · 2003-08-18, 03:35 PM

Just curious what others think about this. I play a BR8 Vanu on Konried, and I would never let this cert go. I kill a minimum of 4 people, without a gunner everytime I grab this vehicle, unless I'm intercepted by a reaver in the middle of nowhere. Once, I went on a runover spree and kill over 20 people. The hit box is insane, along with maneuverability, and then add to that the fact that I can go over water and have no firing arch (my gunners need no real skill) and you got the best tank in the game IMHO.

I'll bet 50% or more of the vanu have this cert. What do you guys think?

Cease · 2003-08-18, 04:08 PM

I don't think it is overpowered. I don't think it needs nerfing. I do think its the best tank in the game for many of the reasons you listed. And I think only about 12-13% of Vanu have this cert.

Happy lil Elf · 2003-08-18, 04:25 PM

In a word? No.

I love idiotic madrider pilots who think it;s a great idea to drive without a gunner and just try to run people over. They make great targets for my Lightning/Vanguard cannon

It's almost as funny as Mosquitos who hover in one spot and try to kill a tank.

P.S. The hitbox on the Magrider is not insane. In fact it's exactly the same size as *gasp* the tank itself.

gonnagetyou · 2003-08-18, 04:26 PM

Oh, boy! You're just asking for a lively discussion/ flame aren't you.

Personnally I think the Magrider is fine and well balanced.

If I were to rate the tanks in the game I'd put the Vanguard first, Magrider second and Prowler third.

All three of them are highly effective at running people over. The Magrider has a slight advantage because of it's straffing ability. As far as the hit box is concerned it is the same for all three tanks in the game. The Magrider is modeled narrower than the others, which just makes it more noticeable when you get hit and it looks like you haven't.

The main gun being direct fire does take less experience to use, but I've seen Vanguard gunners who were so good you would never know the difference.

I think the main reason people hate the Magrider is becuse it is easily operted and highly effective when crewed by a driver only. Sometimes finding a good gunner can be a hassle. Being able to drive off the vehicle terminal and jump straight into the fight is what most people want anyway.

One of my characters is BR17 Vanu on Markov and I only had the Magrider Cert for one day. I actually prefer the fun I have with the Lightning. I just couldn't get comfortable with the Magriders controls and so I gave it up.

Spider · 2003-08-18, 04:31 PM

I love the mag... don't think it needs any balancing... it's the same as the others.

Althought a good mag gunner and driver will always beat a good vanguard gunner driver...

A guy from AC took 15 vanguards down before getting his mag blasted to hell...

Still mag is great. One of OUR advantages.

Cease · 2003-08-18, 04:34 PM

The past couple of nights I have been gunning for Vangards pretty consistenly. All the tanks are good. With capable gunners, it pretty much comes down to who sees who the fastest and landing the first shot.

noxious · 2003-08-18, 05:12 PM

If a vanguard and a magrider sat next to each other and unloaded rounds on each other as fast as they could, the vanguard would win would it not? How then, can a good vanguard crew be beaten by a good magrider crew? Unless there is a difference in skill level.

BigTexas · 2003-08-18, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Spider
Althought a good mag gunner and driver will always beat a good vanguard gunner driver...

Thats pretty funny, but not all that likely. I dont care how good a Magrider crew is, against a skilled Vangaurd crew, they are going down. The Magrider can strafe and prance around the battle field all it wants, but it still has a low maximum speed, 60 KPH I believe, which makes it pretty hard to dodge the shell from the 150mm cannon, which last time I checked, obliterates enemy vehicles with ease. The Magrider has its place, it can strafe over troops and whipe out those who manage to hide behind an obstacle with either its rapid fire pulse gun or the splash of its direct fire rail cannon. It does so quite well, all soft targets are fodder to a Magrider, but it does not perform quite as well against hard targets. More often than not, I have seen Magriders lose to Sunderers, a Lightning tank or two, hell, I even saw a few lose to the lowly Prowler.

A guy from AC took 15 vanguards down before getting his mag blasted to hell...

Yeah, so how many of those had gunners, or even drivers?

Eliaas_Demens · 2003-08-18, 05:25 PM

I was ranting pretty hard and heavy in the last Magrider thread. Personally, I think it's fine. It may be a tad bit overpowered, but unless you'd like to level out the playing field entirely by making all Empire technologies fair and equal(Jackhammer nerf, Pounder nerf, etc), there's no need to change the Magrider at all. However I do agree, Magrider vs Vanguard or Prowler, the Magrider will go down faster than a fat chick on prom night.

Aen · 2003-08-18, 05:35 PM

Yes, the Magmower is over-powered too! Lets just nerf everything the VS have! That way we'll have less of a chance than we do now, and you guys can Zerg us to death!!!

BigTexas · 2003-08-18, 05:58 PM

Overpowered? Thats a joke, the Magrider (Magmower, Fagrider what have you) isnt overpowered in the least, in fact, maybe its a little weaker than need be, but if the Magrider got buffed that means that the Prowler would have to get some serious reworking, because that things a real heap of junk in comparison to the other tanks, and by tanks I am including the Sunderer and Lightning. The Vangaurd is by the far the top dog when it comes to tanks, and thats all there is to it. If the Magrider can run over lets say 5 troops, I say that the Vangaurd will run over almost the same ammount, as well take out far more targets than the Magrider ever could with its 150mm cannon. So yeah, keep complainging about the Magrider, even after its a pile of smoking wrekage riddled with holes from the 150mm cannon.

Eliaas_Demens · 2003-08-19, 12:14 AM

I dunno man.. my nuts jump just as high when I spot a Prowler as they do a Vanguard.

Kikinchikin · 2003-08-19, 12:27 AM

prowler is not even in the same league as the other two. cannons are weak, and its more of a disadvantage to have to have 2 gunners than it is an advantage. magmower is good and vanguard is good. i think the magmower's hitbox either looks bigger or is bigger, cuz i have been 10 meters away and gotten run over, or even been behind a tree. so newayz im not saying this cuz im TR im being honest.

Eliaas_Demens · 2003-08-19, 12:40 AM

Yes, but a fully manned Prowler puts out a lot more damage than a fully manned Vanguard.

Spider · 2003-08-19, 12:40 AM

*sighs* The HITBOX IS NORMAL!!!! ITS THE CLIENT SIDE HIT DETECTION OR WHATEVER! In simple terms if the guy is lagging and seeing you on his screen and rams you! TADAM!!!!! he juts rammed you!

A guy with a 45 second lag and a harrasser ran over my mag driver Taal (when I didnt drive a mag)... by this event I could say! OMFG NURF THE HARRASSSER NERF IT!!! OMFG OVERPOWERED!