Please read- need help with a moral decision

AztecWarrior · 2003-10-11, 12:44 AM

I've already talked this over with my mom, and I wll do so with my dad once he gets back from Chicago.

I have to be vague. I am sorry, but I can't reveal any names or places. I think there is someone in the related party on this forum.

IF YOU KNOW WHO I AM TALKING ABOUT, KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT!

I can't tell you how it started. But basically, a certain group is involved in warez. I have decided that this is morally wrong (Thou Shalt Not Steal.) You can't convince me to change my mind, and that's not the moral question here.

Two of my real-life aquaintance/gamer buddy (not real friend), whom we shall call "X" and "Y", are among them. X and Y do not know I am there, I am posting under a pseudonym (I am not posting as AztecWarrior.)

I have reached the conclusion (and you may beg to differ here) that what this group is doing is equivalent to breaking and entering with theft. Just because two of my friends happen to be in the group does not mean you shouldn't call the police.

I am considering reporting them.

Most likely, they will get a cease and desist. However, if they need my name, or go to trial, I will be screwed as I will be called to the stand...and then the secret's over.

I want to do this if I can be assured that:
A: I remain 100% anonymous.
B: There will be no huge consequences, such as fines, jail time, or being sent to trial.

I do have a firewall, which supports my identity. (however, it does mention my ISP, which is inconsistent with my pseudonym.) I can try using a CGI proxy.

As for the reprecussions, I am not sure.

A major problem is that this is partially fueled by revenge. X and Y have not been the most loyal and caring friends. Granted, not a huge part, but a little bit.

So what do you think? Should I go ahead, or think about it.

Onizuka · 2003-10-11, 12:53 AM

???

You THINK there is a related party on THIS forum?!?!

This really isn't that clear to me.

If you didn't do anything wrong though, and people that you really dont know are, dont worry about them. What they do (again, if you arent rl friends) is none of your business. But im confused a little.

ZionsFire · 2003-10-11, 12:58 AM

goddamn life sucks sometimes. Eh I'm not good at makin decisions so.....

BUGGER�GHO�T · 2003-10-11, 01:34 AM

If indeed they are doing something illegal, call.

If you are not sure, keep an eye on them. Better if once they do do whatever is illegal, get him/her to tell how the whole thing turned out, then just ss the whole message, or record, etc, get some sort of proof.

But that way you will probably have to go to trial to prove them guilty. I'm not sure but you could probably get a represenetive to speak for you. i'm not sure, but breaking the law/stealing (since i practicly break the law 24/7 riding dirkbikes on teh road and sometimes on the freeway/expressway) is wrong. And wether you like it or not, you gota put them in the chair, even if your in the same room with them.

And as long as you did nothing, you probably wont get any consicuences (sp), if not maybe a weekend in the local jailcell or comunitie service....

It's your choice, time to think whats in the other guys hand an make a play.

Onizuka · 2003-10-11, 01:56 AM

Im against warez in most instances too. But I wouldnt go to that extent. I dont like complications.

I would think about it a little more.

EineBeBoP · 2003-10-11, 01:57 AM

meh.
well, if its anonymous, i say call. just dial your local Police station (not 911) and ask them about this. dont give name, address, or even cross-streets and such, and youll b fine.

but what do I know.

Originally Posted by Onizuka

I would think about it a little more.

I agree

Pilgrim · 2003-10-11, 01:59 AM

Do the right thing

Regardless of cost.

Sometimes that will really suck, but if you always strive to do the right thing it'll go well for you! I swear!

BUGGER�GHO�T · 2003-10-11, 02:00 AM

ya know that pns ndabut feels good.

Onizuka · 2003-10-11, 02:01 AM

EINE! Nice quoting me on the possibley GHEYEST THING i have ever said. :rof: jk i dont care

EineBeBoP · 2003-10-11, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by BUGGER�GHO�T

ya know that pns ndabut feels good.

...wtf?

Originally Posted by Onizuka

EINE! Nice quoting me on the possibley GHEYEST THING i have ever said. :rof: jk i dont care

But its Hilarious

if you dont like ill get rid of it.
but it pwns

Onizuka · 2003-10-11, 02:05 AM

nah, i dont care.

But its amazing how anal violation can be brought into a thread about warez. I guess they are both violations.... Im whoring tonight.

/me bans 1024s mom

OWNED

jk

Veteran · 2003-10-11, 02:12 AM

You know these people, and game with them, and yet are considering betraying them? What you are considering is wrong for a number of reasons. I hope that you stop before becoming a traitor. Software companies add to the price of their product to counter piracy. Don't waste an ounce of concern over their interests. It's your friends you should show loyalty to.

Robot · 2003-10-11, 02:18 AM

let them be.

r3d · 2003-10-11, 02:25 AM

Are you trying to say youre goina nark on your friends cause of warez?
Thats not even that bad, its like saying youre goina nark on your friends cause they punched someone in the face at school, it may annoy you, but what the fuck do you care?

Irenicuz · 2003-10-11, 04:54 AM

Glad I don't have friends like you Aztec, just leave them.