Heavy Transport Cert

Doppler · 2003-10-14, 08:12 AM

Can anyone see any major issues with them combining the galaxy and the sunderer into one cert. Barrin that yes flying an air vehicle is wholly difrent from a ground vehicle they are both very niche vehicles that are useless if you dont have the corrosponding facility. Once upon a time I had the gal cert but gave it up because it seemed like I'd drop on a base fly the gal to a safe place, land it, and by the time I got back to the base either the fight whould be over or while I was tooling around doing the infantry thing my gal whould be blown or stolen.

Sunderer's my main problem was if we had a techplant people whould rather take their techplant vehicles to a location, and I dont fault them for that.

TheN00b · 2003-10-14, 08:51 AM

that actually seems like a good idea. it prbly drives gal pilots insane to be dragging around those useless 3 cert points when ever the base their at isnt a Drop Ship Center. The sunderer would be a slightly weaker option, but would still work.

dscytherulez · 2003-10-14, 09:51 AM

But that gives gal pilots the ability to transport llu carriers also...which i dont think they should get, because libs cant do it!

Doppler · 2003-10-14, 09:56 AM

The lib was not meant to be a transport vehicle although it is, the gal WAS meant to be a transport vehicle, hence calling the cert HEAVY TRANSPORT. The Lib is a combat aircraft by that logic you should be pissed mossy's reavers and atvs/lightnings cant haul LLU's.

Hamma · 2003-10-14, 03:05 PM

Interesting idea, I'm for it

Veteran · 2003-10-14, 03:13 PM

Certification Credit Consolidation has been kicking around for a while. It's a good idea.

I'd like to see Medium Assault not be necessary for the other assault certs. I don't see the logic that says you have to be certified in Cycler/Gauss/Pulsar and Sweeper before you can qualify to use a grenade launcher. It would free up two certs for a lot of people and that's a good thing.

Doppler · 2003-10-14, 03:43 PM

Personaly I kind of like the idea of needing medium assault, you have to learn the M-16 before you can learn the M-203 or the Mark 13 gernade launcher.

Aen · 2003-10-14, 03:55 PM

I like the Heavy Transport idea, but if they continue with combining certs., then they are cutting down on the different roles people play. Everyone with the Sunderer now has the Gal and everyone with the Gal has the Sunderer now. At some point you have to draw the line. But as for the transport idea, i can see how that would work, seeing as how there is a shortage of quality Gal and Sunderer pilots out there. And I think it would be nice to have those good role players to get 2 vehicles for that one cert.

As for the MA, they should definately keep that the way it is. Yeah the extra 2 cert points would be nice, but just think, all the NC grunts with JH now have 2 extra cert points.....

......scary.....

Madcow · 2003-10-14, 04:11 PM

I like the idea with just a couple of reservations. First of all, next to nobody has the Sunderer cert now and I like the idea of seeing more of them around. I've always been pretty fond of the war wagon. My first reservation is that 3 certs wouldn't be enough and it might need to be 4. You're allowing a lot of flexibility letting somebody have the two transports like that. My gut feeling is that people would be more willing to pay 4 for the both of those than were willing to get ripped off with the 3 cert ATV thing they had going on.
My second reservation is what this does to the Deliverer. Heck, at 4 certs you may as well throw the Deliverer into the mix and have a Transport cert. If you combine Gal and Sunderer the Deliverer will become the rarest vehicle in the game.

Happy lil Elf · 2003-10-14, 04:39 PM

Personally I wish they'd consolidate more vehicle certs or perhaps give a more expensive cert that's cheaper than buying them seperately fpr certain pairings of vehicles like for example the Mossy/Reaver, the Deliverer/Sunderer, the lightning/Medium tank for 5 instead of 6 certs.

Nitsch · 2003-10-14, 05:20 PM

I could see combining Gal/Deliverer more than Gal/sunderer. Sunderer is a kick arse cert by itself.

Gal and deliverer have more in common in that they are primarily transports with guns that are not that great for assault. While the Sunderer is an RV of death; it can transport sizable force while having decent firepower.

TheRagingGerbil · 2003-10-14, 05:38 PM

I like the idea, but I'd suggest a little change though.

Heavy Transport Cert

Sunderer
Loadstar

Medium Transport Cert

Deliverer
Galaxy

My other idea involves a yet to be created vehicle.

Heavy Transport Cert

Sunderer
Galaxy

Medium Transport Cert

Deliverer
Blackhawk

(Imagine a Deliverer with the tail and wings of a liberator. A fast insertion/extraction vehicle)

Madcow · 2003-10-14, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Nitsch

I could see combining Gal/Deliverer more than Gal/sunderer. Sunderer is a kick arse cert by itself.

Only the Skyguard sees less use than the Sunderer, even the Deliverer is used more. It's cool, but worth the certs? I wouldn't mind seeing these combo deals just for the sake of seeing some of these vehicles more often on the battlefield. I can go days without seeing a single Skyguard or Sunderer.

Kyonye · 2003-10-14, 06:11 PM

they should stay seperate. they may both be heavy transports but one land and ones sea. completely different from eachother.

FireZ · 2003-10-14, 06:27 PM

I agree....I would like to see a lot more combo certs. harrasser/skyguard....etc...some vehicles are just not worth the certs you spend but could be useful from time to time. The galaxy does admittedly need some help and so does the Sunderer. I do not however think we should add them together. Maybe pair them with others but not together. Maybe the galaxy and the loadstar.....the sunderer and the deliverer.