Because I need the amusement..

MrVicchio · 2003-01-17, 02:31 PM

Hey Dio.. please explain why capitalism sux (this IS the right thread tho Hamma's not gonna be hamma-happy ah well.. :P)
I need a goood laugh atm.

Unregistered · 2003-01-17, 02:34 PM

Die Capatalist American Pig Dog!!

�io · 2003-01-17, 02:37 PM

Egads!

Too lazy and hungry right now. Basically i just think a system where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer (that a word?) isn't right. Add to that the fact that if you're rich you can more or less do what you want and get away with it and it seems we could come up with a better system that would promote equality not corporate fat cats and money grubbing industries.

Or do you think it's right to pay around (dunno figures) 50grand a year to the people who are teaching and inspiring our futur generations but pay 20million so some guy can pretend he is a secret agent in some movie or 8million or more so a guy can throw a ball really far.

BLuE_ZeRO · 2003-01-17, 02:43 PM

They're not forcing people to pay them those salaries though. People are willing to dish out ass loads of money to see a person throw a ball far or pretend to be a spy. If people don't like it they won't support it.

Unregistered · 2003-01-17, 02:48 PM

It's not a system where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. It's a system where the harder you work, the more you get.

So the better your work etheic, the more educated you are, if you strive to get a head in life, you will.

Bill Gates was not borm wealth. He worked hard, started a bussiness and is sucessful.

The poor get poorer only because they are lazy, and will not work hard enough to get richer, and don't even start on how the poor have no oppertunities and can't get a leg up without the governments help.

I was a homeless person. Dead fucking broke and living in a car. It didn't take Socialist Government handouts to get me off the street. It took hard work.

I now enjoy a really nice job where I am paid really, really well.

The poor (me) got Richer. Thanks to Capitalism!!

MrVicchio · 2003-01-17, 02:49 PM

The system itself is fine, its people that screw it up.

I love that line btw about the rich getting richer and the poorer..

Why are rich people rich?

Hmm.. well some were born into it, true.. damn the bad luck to be born rich!

But a LARGE portion of rich people WORK to be rich! Thats right, omg what a concept!

As for the teachers making X and actors making XXXXX...

Teachers are poorly paid because the average Joe takes about 0 initive to hold the school boards accountable. Teh teachers are all tied up in ignorant teachers unions where the teachers are poor and the administrators are rich.. thats stupid.

Besides, if you took away the chance to become rich, why then would you work harder? Why work at all if you are given what you need? Why would anyone spend 2 years toiling away to make a video game? For the love of it... I think not.

Unregistered · 2003-01-17, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Dio

Or do you think it's right to pay around (dunno figures) 50grand a year to the people who are teaching and inspiring our futur generations but pay 20million so some guy can pretend he is a secret agent in some movie or 8million or more so a guy can throw a ball really far.

Thank You Dio!!

You have just proven why Capatalism is better. The people that make 8million for a moive are not government employees. They are Capatalists making money from there talents. Socialism prevents teachers from making a fair wage.

Private teachers that work harder to get better at their jobs make considerbly more money then a Public School teacher.

BLuE_ZeRO · 2003-01-17, 02:52 PM

Funny how money makes people work harder

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-17, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by MrVicchio
The system itself is fine, its people that screw it up.

Rofl. Almost any system works in theory and it is always the people who screw it up.

What is needed is a propper balance between socialism and capitalism.

Pure capitalism doesn't work, pure socialism doesn't work.

Now finding where that balance of how much freedom versus how much regulation is the hard part.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-17, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Unregistered
Thank You Dio!!

You have just proven why Capatalism is better. The people that make 8million for a moive are not government employees. They are Capatalists making money from there talents. Socialism prevents teachers from making a fair wage.

Private teachers that work harder to get better at their jobs make considerbly more money then a Public School teacher.

You do realise that we don't live in pure capitalism. For example, We have institutions like minnimum wage. Minimum wage is in no way Capitalist.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-17, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by MrVicchio
I love that line btw about the rich getting richer and the poorer..

Mr Vicchio, this is not necessarily a good thing.

What happens when the poor have become the majority and the poor refuse to be poor anymore?

Revolution.

One of the purposes of Government is to create stability. A system that has no check on the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer is doomed to fail.

Navaron · 2003-01-17, 03:19 PM

It's funny, poor Dio is out in his little left wing land, minding his own business and he gets blindsided then his this thread gains 10 post b4 he can come back.

Anyway, just like communism, you can't make people work for nothing. Capitilism works because of this, they won't work for 4 bucks an hour. When no one can hire people, they'll pay higher wages. The hardest working people here get the best rewards in this system. Nothing makes me madder than seeing some sob spend 200 bucks in foodstamps on lobster and steaks, then break out his own money to pay for 100 bucks worth of booze and smokes. I hate it more than I can say.

I'm also against minimum wage. It's socialism, you're right on with that. If it weren't around, I'd be making even more money.

MrVicchio · 2003-01-17, 03:26 PM

Lex.. you are right, but see.. in America, that willnever happen.. Why?

Cause while there are some dirt poor people, and I feel for em.. Even the poorest man can become rich. The rich do not hold the poor people down, the poor peopel hold themselves down. I aay that in a general sense. A poor man that is happy living on say welfare will never be rich... where as the poor kid that tries has a chance to move up...

The day the rich say "Thou art poor, and thou stay poor for eternity" is when revolution will come, but that wont happen inAmerica, land of Oppurtunity.

Navaron · 2003-01-17, 03:27 PM

Besides, our streets are made out of gold. If you need a house, just hack off a chunk of the side walk.

Lexington_Steele · 2003-01-17, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by MrVicchio

...but that wont happen inAmerica, land of Oppurtunity.

but hopfully not the land of "equal-oppurtunity." right?

But seriously, you don't need comments like, "let them eat cake," for the working class to flip the system upsidown. Infact, the opurtunistic capitalist will even support such a revolutionist movement if it will buy them power.