Devs read this! 8)

Ait'al · 2003-11-13, 01:34 PM

Originally stated here

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i want a anti armor sniper rifle, mabey like a anti tanks rifle, or a anti max rifle.
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Thats what i was proposing with the rail gun form ERASER. YOu get a 1or 2point cert and get a regular BD. Go to your terminal select a new thing that says mod BD it goes out of your rifle slot, 1 at a time though so you dont automaticaly do both, and you get back a modified SRG(Sniper rail gun). Looks just like BD with the cool stuff form that gun form eraser all over it and a weird scope like it for looking through trees adn whatnot and picking off tanks. IT would be weak against soft targes(grunts) but good against AV and Maxes. And yes the rounds could go through trees and whatever amount of surface the scope could succesfully see through. It would have a 2 to 5 bolt clip to have a chance ot take out vehicles but would hardly do 1/3 times over the amount one BD shot would do to guys per shot. It would also have a slightly slow reload time per bullet. The clip baiscally would just hold the rounds for an auto loading hting, but would be half the time of hte bolt drivers time for what would be manual loading. And a slightly worse cone of fire so hitting a max is like hitting a grunt. Maybe the same COF bloom or slightly better though, but not much. If the damage above is to much for grunts you could change it to 1/5 the damage. And it would be common pool obviously cause yo mod hte BD. And maybe it should be the same amount of certs as the Sniping one or one less (add.on AV sniping cert.) It could take 2 clips to take out hte heaviest armor. (Dont know the best number adjust it in your head.) Great specialization for snipers then. And if someoen want it they have ot spend alot of certs, especially its 6 certs to get.(It requires the sniper cert, its cert, to get and a BD to mod.) And for safe measure you could always make it a four cert one if thats not enough. IE 7 certs to get total. So not every idiot can not walk around with a decent long range AV weapon.

And like i said about the scope, see through lots of trees, like all of them up to 200 yard and still fire through them past that 50 yards and hit things in general up to 350 yards(So the Zoom lense is useful for snipers.)(or atleast a 100 yards longer than the bolt driver if thats not over.IF not adjust the numbers for the scope etc too.). The point is it should be 10%-20% greater in these regards than the BD since its for tanks.

Can someoen post the stats for the BD so i can give a good example. 8)

Hmm, maybe even personal identification so others cant even fire yours if htey picked it up.(IE it took your dna sample the first time you touched it.)

Hows that sound.

Just imaging the new things to do. two of them for all vehicle mellee or one of each for opurtunity. and then you could still do an all BD thing and be a traditional grunt killing sniper. Would add a crap load of use for the Rexo armor. Not to mention you could have a decent chance at running around with a medium heavy assault weapon to take out larger armor units, so you dont just have to sit around and wait for stuff. But it would still be the more efficient thing to do. (Remember this is a 7 cert combo or no way of doing it. So no abuse unless youwant to sacrifice them.)

And if theres a way to detect wher teh BD fires from people are worried about jsut remember that it could have that big greed circle inplace of a smal red dot. 8)

Comments! and i want one of these bad so please like it. lol

If this idea is good enough would someone post it in hte OF.

TeraHertz · 2003-11-13, 01:48 PM

Vehicles are too pressured as it is with excessive use of decimators. Any NC or VS on Werrner will know the dread of the standard TR loaddout. Rexo, chaingun, and decimators. If they aren't spamming red tracer, they're hiding behind trees and firing rockets at your gun-turret/tank.

Veteran · 2003-11-13, 01:54 PM

Lancer is exactly that, the equivalent of the modern anti-materiel rifles that shoot through concrete, armor, etc. Take AV and loot one of those and see how you like it, or make a barney on some server and give it a run.

Ait'al · 2003-11-13, 01:55 PM

But it would be alot harder to kill than a bd would for a person. And you could always just change so you can see through trees and not fire through them. Like i said, also, heavy cert cost so only useful for snipers and those of them who would even touch it. And if people changed to it it could get those decimators users to switch to a less affective More skills based weapon(you can adjust to COF stuff to make this true). You would just have to encourage more air users to defend against them. Or more BD snipers, though not as effective.

And im not saying you cant add a good measure or two to eliminate those issues. Just as long as the integrity of its design is still intact.

TeraHertz · 2003-11-13, 02:02 PM

Bascily what you're saying is, you're a sniper and as well as owning infantry, you wan't to own vehicles as well. I have an idea. Lets let your gun see and shoot through walls too. Then you can take out spawn tubes and generators. And when the world is destroyed and everyone quits pside, the snipers can all get together, make a little love, and get down tonight.

: dance:

Ait'al · 2003-11-13, 02:05 PM

It wouldnt be able to go through the thickness of a wall and you can just not let it fire through them in the first place like i just said! And it wouldnt own infantry. It would suck at infantry. just adjust the times for reloads and decrease the damage i stated to infanty. As is its only a medium assault weapon at best.

And its a totally seperate gun. No other firing modes. You would have to have a BD and this to take out both. It just used the Bd as a requirement to make it harder for people to get it.(you have to have the 4 point cert on top of the 3 cert for the BD, not to mention the Sniping cer it a requirment for the 4point one, you have to have a BD with you at a terminal and have to have it stored in a rifle slot to do it or it wont recognize the BD to mod it.)

And i never said it would go through walls just trees stop overreacting and being a jackass. Im not asking for stupid opinions about things on hte gun i never said were even there. And like i said many times now you can have just the scope capable of looking through Trees(only) and not firing through them.

Liquidtide · 2003-11-13, 02:10 PM

Thank you Veteran, you said it, we already have this weapon it's called the lancer. Ait'al you want it to look and shoot through trees??? What are you smoking man? There is already little cover on some planets and you want to have the accuracy of the BD AND go through all cover? Give me a break that's ridculous, and I'm a sniper by trade.

~Tide

Ait'al · 2003-11-13, 02:13 PM

Will you STFU and read the damn post before you fucking start bitching i said NO it wouldnt fir through trees. YOur a Fucking Moron!

Why dont you try posting something useful instead of jsut making blunt remarks. Its called a discussion.

And being soemthing doesnt stop you from begin to stupid to read what i said about that and posting about something i already resolved. If you think something on it is too much why dont you say something to fix it or jsut say you dont like it in a constructive way.

Like Terahurtz first comment.

Liquidtide · 2003-11-13, 02:16 PM

Ok you want a remark... stop trying to unbalance the equation.

Likewise it doesn't matter what I just read bc you edit your posts 51 times before the thread dies. What I read 5 minutes before is now irrelevant. Please, 1 post 1 idea don't go back and change your mind.

Ait'al · 2003-11-13, 02:23 PM

i wasnt changing my mind i left something out. if you dont have something constructive to say why dont you fucking post in another thread!

Ait'al · 2003-11-13, 02:26 PM

I wanted to hear some real ideas about how it Could work!

Liquidtide · 2003-11-13, 02:26 PM

I did say something constructive, seeing through objects is unnecessary. Nothing else does this. As for the gun, it's not an awful Idea, but we already have something called the lancer. That's my opinion, it's not wrong, it's mine.

Kenney · 2003-11-13, 02:32 PM

cant we all just get along?

Ait'al · 2003-11-13, 02:34 PM

i was refering to the lack of why in hte after posts not the opinion.

Kenney · 2003-11-13, 02:35 PM

Im a sniper, the gun isn't a bad idea, but it would need restrictions. Shooting thru trees isn't going to work.(I know you already said that, dont flip) Seeing thru them however, would give an AV advantage. Maybe it only sees vehicles thru trees, not infantry, so if a grunt is trying to sneek up on you, you have to pay attention or die.