LOL @ George Bush

NightWalker XI · 2003-11-17, 04:12 PM

OMG this guy cracks me up, look at this article, he is crazy I swear:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_ne...086397,00.html

EarlyDawn · 2003-11-17, 04:21 PM

The Americans had also wanted to travel with a piece of military hardware called a 'mini-gun', which usually forms part of the mobile armoury in the presidential cavalcade. It is fired from a tank and can kill dozens of people. One manufacturer's description reads: 'Due to the small calibre of the round, the mini-gun can be used practically anywhere. This is especially helpful during peacekeeping deployments.'

The man is insane. He wanted a minigun? Out of his fucking mind. You are the president, not rambo. And let's be prefectly honest, any method the terrorists we know would either be bomb-based (disarming an explosive with a high-velocity machinegun isn't smart or practical) or would involve circumstances where a minigun wouldn't help (indoors?).

You could probably spend the money on more practical and inexpensive weaponry that would be better suited for the likely situations. (More snipers, buy a set of that reactive stuff from the Army, I mean, c'mon, laptop gun!?. Use your imaginations here.

And I love the manufacturer's description.

BUGGER�GHO�T · 2003-11-17, 04:38 PM

[edited for the non humorous]

Rbstr · 2003-11-17, 04:45 PM

They wanted a mini gun? god that like saying, we don't trust your police to the point we will bring a mini gun to fend off the hordes of assasins.

Yeah Peace keeping with a minigun, sounds like a conservative idea to me.

Neon Apocalypse · 2003-11-17, 04:56 PM

Anyone seen The Jackal? Laptop guns will make u explode uppon impact. I think that bush has some special plan to unite the world in capitalism and become supreme ruler. Hes startng to seem evil.

Firefly · 2003-11-17, 05:47 PM

Yeah see there are a few problems with this garbage. Miniguns are not fired from armor. The *ONLY* "minigun" that has EVER been mounted on mobile armor was an air defense system (also known as "anti-air" by the non-hablars)that was mounted on an M113, and that was Vietnam-era. If I were the leader of the free world with access to weapons, I sure as fuck wouldn't use a 40-yr old piece of equipment like a -113. I'd go with a Bradley if it was dirt road or a Marine Corps LAV (and not that piece of shit Striker) for hardball. The only small-caliber miniguns in military service are mounted on helicopters and the occasional slow-moving plane. I would hardly consider a helicopter as "mobile armor".

Furthermore, tanks and mobile armor do NOT accompany a presidential cavalcade UNLESS the cavalcade is an entirely military motorcade. And since the President is a civilian and thus protected by civilian agencies, and thus travels mainly by civilian cavalcade, odds are that would never have happened any way. The only time a president is in a military cavalcade is when he or she is traveling to a US Overseas base in a forward area. And even then, its generally in suped-up armored full-size Chevrolet Suburbans.

EarlyDawn · 2003-11-17, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by BUGGER�GHO�T

I bet the laptop gun shoots out razor sharp floppy disks.

It's obvious you've never played Perfect Dark. Nor have a sense of humor. It was said to illustrate a point.
Sit down, please.

Mtx · 2003-11-17, 05:59 PM

Bush sure is paranoid. It's almost as if he knows 2/3 of the world wants him dead.

EarlyDawn · 2003-11-17, 06:01 PM

You think too highly of the monkey in the suit.

Hamma · 2003-11-17, 06:47 PM

This is pretty much standard operation as far as presidential security goes.

EarlyDawn · 2003-11-17, 06:49 PM

Yeah, I know, arguably the most important person in the world, as they say. But I can't see a situation where a minigun would be useful in any way, except for a full scale street war or armed riot, in which case I'd imagine you'd be fucked eventually anyway.

Hamma · 2003-11-17, 06:50 PM

Firefly · 2003-11-17, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by Firefly

Yeah see there are a few problems with this garbage. Miniguns are not fired from armor. The *ONLY* "minigun" that has EVER been mounted on mobile armor was an air defense system (also known as "anti-air" by the non-hablars)that was mounted on an M113, and that was Vietnam-era. If I were the leader of the free world with access to weapons, I sure as fuck wouldn't use a 40-yr old piece of equipment like a -113. I'd go with a Bradley if it was dirt road or a Marine Corps LAV (and not that piece of shit Striker) for hardball. The only small-caliber miniguns in military service are mounted on helicopters and the occasional slow-moving plane. I would hardly consider a helicopter as "mobile armor".

Furthermore, tanks and mobile armor do NOT accompany a presidential cavalcade UNLESS the cavalcade is an entirely military motorcade. And since the President is a civilian and thus protected by civilian agencies, and thus travels mainly by civilian cavalcade, odds are that would never have happened any way. The only time a president is in a military cavalcade is when he or she is traveling to a US Overseas base in a forward area. And even then, its generally in suped-up armored full-size Chevrolet Suburbans.

AztecWarrior · 2003-11-17, 07:56 PM

Why do we need fighter aircraft? I'd have a small contingent of about 8 Eagles at Heathrow or Gatwick, whatever's closer, but yes to the helicopters. In case of emergency, riot police go into action, Pres gets whisked out by a Blackhawk to Heathrow/Gatwick.

A minigun is excessive. I don't think that the crowd will go that violent.

Navaron · 2003-11-17, 08:02 PM

You guys realize the mini gun is most likely mounted on the damn black hawk right? Think it through people, it makes sense. Although I'm sure you guys were the CIA's first choice for security, but you weren't availible because you were too busy telling the rest of the world how to run from you desk, I think it's safe to say the Secret Service might have a clue what they're doing...