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View Poll Results: Would you cert Lancer if it used 15 'Green Ammo' per shot?
Oh hell yes!!! 21 67.74%
Nah. or 'WTH you mean I'm not even VS' 10 32.26%
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Old 2003-12-14, 03:27 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Would you cert Lancer if......


It ran off of VS energy ammo?

Personally I think it would just rawk!!
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Lancer using "Green Box" energy ammo
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The Catch: Needs 15 Energy Ammo PER SHOT.


Storage per 'Cube' is Identical:


6.00 shots in 4x4 box = 0.375 per cube
3.33 shots in 3x3 box = 0.370 per cube
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Same Ammount. Same Size. Same Power.
Just a lot more Versitile.



So. Would you use it?
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Old 2003-12-14, 03:30 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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Yes but i would have used it anyway 8d


OH hell yes! got to put on that party dress....... I love Tom Petty! Last dance with Mary Jane. One more time to kill the Paaaiiinnn! I feel summer creeping in and i... gotta get outa this town agaaaiinnn!!!!! sorry! Wait i think i said that last part wrong!?

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Old 2003-12-14, 03:40 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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I use the Lancer anyway. so, nyeh.

Fear it, for it owns you.
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Old 2003-12-14, 04:23 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Yeah, Lancer is pretty good. I haven't played with my VS character enough to really make an opinion on the ammo suggestion, but I remember it's great for taking out TR anchored MAX units. One of the only things I like about the Vanu Sovereignty. Too bad our Striker was nerfed to hell, or else I'd still have my AV Cert with my Terran.

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Old 2003-12-14, 04:52 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I use the lancer whit my VS char, great for plucking off MAXs at distance so no ammo change needed imo.
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Old 2003-12-14, 06:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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I would say only run the lancer off normal energy if... we get to use shotgun shells for the phoenix!

However, it does fit in with the whole vs flexability thing.
I recall them saying at one point in the dev interview that they were going to be looking at the sizes of AV ammo boxes in the future. I would assume that in that case, if NC and TR were given smaller versions of their own, (but still different from normal ammo) then you would have a case for making VS use standard energy cells. But as it stands it hardly seems fair that VS would get to use small boxes that also can be used for other weapons while NC/TR have to run around with huge boxes that take up 3/4 of their invo.
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Old 2003-12-14, 07:28 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Originally Posted by Eldanesh
I would say only run the lancer off normal energy if... we get to use shotgun shells for the phoenix!

However, it does fit in with the whole vs flexability thing.
I recall them saying at one point in the dev interview that they were going to be looking at the sizes of AV ammo boxes in the future. I would assume that in that case, if NC and TR were given smaller versions of their own, (but still different from normal ammo) then you would have a case for making VS use standard energy cells. But as it stands it hardly seems fair that VS would get to use small boxes that also can be used for other weapons while NC/TR have to run around with huge boxes that take up 3/4 of their invo.
Hey, VS dont have to loot ammo boxs off NC and TR unless its for the AV, so they have an adv. in that aspect.

Besides, lancer owns.
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Old 2003-12-14, 11:58 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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The Lancer is certed hardly at all compared to Striker and Phoenix.

www.greyfalcon.net/lancercert.jpg - www.thottbot.com/planetside/

It has no targeting, it has CoF expansion when you move the crosshair, it has a warm up time, and theres a signifigant delay when the shot hits at range.

Phoenix can currently kill a max slightly fast indoors. Much faster if the max is smart enough to use personal shield, or happens to be an NC max.
And the Phoenix user doesn't even need to be sitting out in the open for 7 seconds.

Striker, it's lock is a bit buggy. Devs already have that scheduled for a fix. Once thats all done, it can lock onto maxes.

Striker needs a locking buff, it's pretty gimp right now. Phoenix it's the only weakness it has is ammo supply. Otherwise it's perhaps a BETTER weapon than Decimator.

Before I proposed a 20% firepower increase to put Lancer back in balance, but that wouldn't make sence.

Instead Lancer should be a weapon that capitalizes on Player aiming skill and Versitility.

This change would do exactly that.

Doesn't raise it's ammo storage. It makes it like every other VS weapon, with a common energy source.
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Old 2003-12-14, 12:16 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Ah yeh.

Forgot to mention. This means VS stuff would be easier to loot than ever before.

Whole point is that it would take 90 ammo to reload 6 shots.
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Old 2003-12-14, 12:18 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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the striker hasa bug when locking onto maxs?
Thats why I wasnt killing a dam thing with it...

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Old 2003-12-14, 12:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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no the pheonix sucks indoors with its one shot per magazine capability it takes forever to kill a max, its bang! wait 3 seconds, aim bang, repeat once more, its very unwieldy, the only time i can kill maxes with it is when i am behind somthing and fireing over a distance or sneaking up on them overe a moderate range

However i like this idea. Just give the pheonix a 2 shot clip and a 4 shot box, so it can spit out 2 missles in dumb fire resonably fast that doen't kill a max. Alos give the striker a 5 shot box
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Old 2003-12-14, 12:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Which would you rather. Being forced to stay out in the open for 7 seconds, or reload twice for 3 seconds?

Staying out in the open against a max is bad for your health.
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Old 2003-12-14, 12:31 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Indeed, whenever I see a max out in the open, I start foaming at the mouth thinking to myself "Lights out!" And if those maxes could just see the grin on my face.....
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Old 2003-12-14, 12:46 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I think having the Lancer run of of standard energy cells would really help the Vanu and their "Versitility" aspect of weapons. Would probably also make it a MUCH more common weapon because they wouldn't have to carry aropund another type of ammo, and they get to use 2 other weapons as well.
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Old 2003-12-14, 01:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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I was told to post here by GreyFlcn or he'd cut off my testicals and feed them to me. So here it is...
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