Do you guys feel like you...

Laeritides · 2004-01-07, 10:30 AM

are paying to beta test this game? Don't get me wrong I love this game! It just seems like the game was released before it was finished. I am excited to be part of the changes that are being made. I just feel like I am back in UO beta again.

xmodum · 2004-01-07, 10:36 AM

another game , WW2online ran out of money before they could finish it , had to release it like 2 years to early, thats my dads game , its kinda kool, but still needs alot of work,i dont know bout PS , since sony made it

Krinsath · 2004-01-07, 11:02 AM

That is unfortunately the truth of any software in today's day and age. No software will ever be bug free. If they waited to release PS until even 80% of the bugs (remember that not all bugs adversely affect gameplay...such as a tracer round going through walls but not doing any damage is still a bug, even though it affects nothing) were dead, the game wouldn't be released until it'd no longer be sci-fi but probably almost a historical re-enactment.

The thing about many computer games is that they can hide their bugs much better. Random thing happens and a user doesn't even notice it. Here, there's thousands of peoples and some bugs are seen by dozens of people at a time. There's also the fact that it's not just YOUR computer like a single player game, but everyone you're playing with. Most other games balk at getting 64 people in the same place...PS puts hundreds in the same environment. There's also no NPCs or bots in this game, so everything is another person at a computer and communication has to be maintained with all 200+ people on a continent.

Throw in that PS is a relatively detailed game with a lot of variation (you'll never see a medic or any soldier really in BF1942 toting around the enemy's weapon) and it's possible to see how hideously complex everything is. As technology changes as well, that introduces new bugs, which in the course of fixing only causes more. In short, no game is *ever* perfect. The important thing is not how few bugs there are, but how quickly they get fixed. With a few notable exceptions, PS does a pretty good job of fixing them.

EVILoHOMER · 2004-01-07, 12:42 PM

of corse this game was released b4 its finished! its a mmo game they r never finished upon release

Vick · 2004-01-07, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Laeritides

are paying to beta test this game? Don't get me wrong I love this game! It just seems like the game was released before it was finished. I am excited to be part of the changes that are being made. I just feel like I am back in UO beta again.

Rofl, UO beta, now THAT shit was fun.

Hamma · 2004-01-07, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Laeritides

are paying to beta test this game? Don't get me wrong I love this game! It just seems like the game was released before it was finished. I am excited to be part of the changes that are being made. I just feel like I am back in UO beta again.

no.

Rayder · 2004-01-07, 02:50 PM

Krin, you should change that to say "no video game is perfect" because a lot of board games are. DnD for instance, if it isn't perfect, it's the user's fault.

Krinsath · 2004-01-07, 02:58 PM

Oh trust me, DnD is *far* from perfect. If it's perfect, why are they on 3rd Edition? Wouldn't first have been enough?

(and that's not all the users fault, the people who run DnD and other similar games always release new expansions that make the original stuff useless...which Core Combat avoided by giving us nothing of use since you can never get them

)

To be fair though, DnD really isn't a board game, it's a pen and paper game. Board games tend to have fewer bugs because you can't do that much. Monopoly or Risk work flawlessly because you have no choices on what you can do (think about it, how many actions do you REALLY have in the typical board game?). You can't, for instance, decide that you want to go from Free Parking to Boardwalk, but if you really wanted to you could conduct a walking tour of Auraxis (you'd be insane, to be sure, but you could). PS is infinitely more complex than a board game, and consequentially has infinitely more problems to address.

SilverLord · 2004-01-07, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by Laeritides

are paying to beta test this game? Don't get me wrong I love this game! It just seems like the game was released before it was finished. I am excited to be part of the changes that are being made. I just feel like I am back in UO beta again.

Of course it has bugs but we are far past beta testing.

Laeritides · 2004-01-07, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Vick

Rofl, UO beta, now THAT shit was fun.

I loved playing that game. Until they screwed it up. Trammel may have saved the game, but I hated it!!

Vick · 2004-01-07, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Laeritides

I loved playing that game. Until they screwed it up. Trammel may have saved the game, but I hated it!!

Yeah, that killed it, but I kept playing anyway wheeee.

I played on Drachenfels, euro server, the people there owned American servers.

Rayder · 2004-01-07, 04:18 PM

Mayhap I should have said DnD like games? You do realise you can change whatever the hell you want in it.

Laeritides · 2004-01-07, 04:18 PM

I played for a while too. Had to give it up when I couldn't above ground in Fel anymore. I was just going to move to seige but I was not about to start my 7x gm mage over again.

SilverLord · 2004-01-07, 04:34 PM

UO...I play on the free shard and I have no idea on how to play that damn game.

Vick · 2004-01-07, 04:43 PM

I played UO up to about a year ago, 7xGM wierd mace tank thing, PvPed alot. In my last 3 months or so I went red and owned folks untill I got bored. All the good PVPers quit...