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Old 2004-01-18, 08:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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the veratility of the vanu?


i play the VS all the time (though i have one br4 tr) and i realy dont think the duel mode is cuting it for the versitilty... i was thinking about and it seem that the jumping and the 2 modes (on small weapons only! wtf!)doesn't cuts it troop wise... i say that becuse the hovering ability on our vechs rock and totaly fits the empire... just the weapons...and we are supossed to be so high tech why does the NC and the TR have the same implants as we do? how about a intergrated weapon implant or somthing... man.
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Old 2004-01-18, 08:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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What, like eyes that shoot lasers or something?
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Old 2004-01-18, 08:56 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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it would be cool but no... i was thinking more along the lines of a intergrated pistol slot for reks or cuds... but the laser eye thing would rock!
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Old 2004-01-18, 08:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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The game needs to be balanced ya know
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Old 2004-01-18, 09:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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no i know that but realy do you as a vanu think that our equipment fits our empire totaly... i would atlest like to be more mobile (as a norm not a boost)
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Old 2004-01-18, 09:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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versatility of ... pulsar, i guess? i think it makes up for it in sheer awesomeness. i know i can take most mcg users with it, and a JH if i'm lucky/they're stupid. i like it. the AP is more powerful than the AP in our max, too.
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Old 2004-01-18, 09:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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yea the pulsar rocks. me with a ap pulsar and a friend with a lasher (circling him).can easlily kill NC AI maxs.
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Old 2004-01-18, 09:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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The VS are versatile enough, you can already bring heavy armor into anywhere faster than anyone else. Your MAX's own everyone elses, and own the infantry. The fact that you GET duel fire modes should be enough, but you also only have to deal with ONE ammo type! I'd say that unless the other Empires were also radically changed to fit their styles in their entirety, which in a nutshell is what i think yer askin' for the VS, The Vanu arn't gonna get what you want for them.
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Old 2004-01-19, 12:21 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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I just wish we had Anti-Grav ground transport.

At leased a four person Thresher, it would be helpful and fit the Vanu technology. I mean they can make a 2 ton Magrider float, they must be able to make a floating sunderer.
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Old 2004-01-19, 12:29 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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The pulsar is awsome, but the cycler is about as good as it gets, it does enough damage per second to kill a guass user before he's fired 4 shots if they start at the same time, and its AP ammo does way more than the pulsar. No nerfing it though, the pulras could use a cool feture like stacking damage to make it more effective and teh guass need more accuracy and a bit more punch per shot.
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Old 2004-01-19, 01:11 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Since when did our weapons start dueling eachother? It's dual people, with an "a."
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Old 2004-01-19, 01:37 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Must... stop from... entering.... grammer mode!

1. Duel
Noun: A formal fight ("I challenge you to a duel!")
Verb: To engage in such a one on one fight. (We shall duel at dawn).

2. Dual
Adjective: Having two components, parts, sides, etc. (The pulsar has dual firing modes; I wish I could dual wield two Repeaters.)

/grammer mode off

Not really trying to say anything here, just clarifying what Rayder said. I don't really care which one people use.
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Old 2004-01-19, 01:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Old 2004-01-19, 02:06 AM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by Dharkbayne
Yeah, good point. I should add something constructive to the discussion.

I think the VS's versatility comes out nicely. I've fought plenty of VS players who really know how to take advantage of flipping fire modes. A VS squad using pulsars in armor-piercing mode can do a surprising amount of damage on any type of armor.

I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I recall hearing a strategy where VS players using pulsars would enter infantry combat with the gun on the armor-piercing switch first. They'll fire a few rounds, enough to knock down the armor of a Rexo user below 50, then they would switch to the regular firing mode and shoot the less armored soldier. Apparently this was supposed to cut down on th TTK considerably, but I'm not sure how true this is.

Just my two cents.
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Old 2004-01-19, 02:31 AM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by MYcrimsonTEARS
i play the VS all the time (though i have one br4 tr) and i realy dont think the duel mode is cuting it for the versitilty... i was thinking about and it seem that the jumping and the 2 modes (on small weapons only! wtf!)doesn't cuts it troop wise... i say that becuse the hovering ability on our vechs rock and totaly fits the empire... just the weapons...and we are supossed to be so high tech why does the NC and the TR have the same implants as we do? how about a intergrated weapon implant or somthing... man.
We are scientisits. Our technology research is not largley military orientated, instead we unlock the secrets of the Vanu to better all mankind. Unfortunatley the opressive TR, and stupid, viloent NC, have forced a small diversion of our technology into weapons, producing what you see in our current arsenal.

So, if you wanted a reason why we don't have totaly different weapons, and implanets and tanks, there you go.
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