No Significant Changes to JH

KIAsan · 2004-01-19, 07:41 PM

I posted this under the old JH thread, but figured it deserved a thread of it's own. Probably old news, but I haven't seen it posted before.

Straight from SmokejumperPS:

"There is no consideration at this time to change or alter the Jackhammer significantly. Certainly no plans to replace it. The Jackhammer is still the most powerful weapon in the game, the only weapon that can one-shot soldiers (outside of vehicle weaponry) and still absolutely fearsome indoors."

Link: http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/p...ML/001209.html

Comments.......?

VashTheStamped · 2004-01-19, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by KIAsan

Comments.......?

none.

Morrik · 2004-01-19, 07:47 PM

I haven't had any problems with the Jackhammer in the game. Sure, there are a lot of players that are using it, but with my MAX certification all the players try to run past me and shoot others without armor. The players with the Jackhammer go down really fast when facing me.

In regards to the players who don't have MAX, it's really easy to dodge something that has random fire from the bullets. Just make sure to move around a lot and use the crouch button to throw them off. The players will try to get close to you and the other two empire Heavy Weapons have a great cone of fire from distance. That is the disadvantage to the Jackhammer. When players on NC get lucky enough to find somebody close by to lay into, then it's the other player's fault being shot at for being so close.

Every gun or weapon in the game has balance from distance to usefulness. To cry "nerf" everytime something can kill you easily is just preposterous and not very well thought out tactics are being used. The game is litterally flawless in my eye. It can only get better and more enjoyable from here on out.

Keep in mind that I have only been playing for a few weeks though. That's just my thought on the situation though.

a pink punk · 2004-01-19, 07:50 PM

um, dude. i think you got the wrong dea from that thread. read the title. then read the post. they are going to fix the reloading bug. they are not going to make a new, as the thread title says. in other words, the thread starter wanted to know what poeple thought would be a good replacement for the JH if they ever deciced to make a NEW HA wep for the NC. also, the thread starter thinks that the JH is now usless. its not.

a pink punk · 2004-01-19, 07:51 PM

you know what, maybe i got the wrong idea when i read your post ...

SpunkJackel · 2004-01-19, 08:08 PM

I dunno Morik, maybe you havent seen enough Jack users. I'm fairly sure that 2 alt fire shots with Armor piercing ammo from the jack kill a max. Thats two clicks of the mouse, I mean I picked up SA just to do that with the deci, if my HA could do that i would be on cloud nine.

Queensidecastle · 2004-01-19, 08:32 PM

Yeah, but the only problem with that is infantry weapons that oneshot people have no business whatsoever in Planetside. If the sniper rifle cant do it, other weapons sure as hell shouldnt be doing it. One of these days they will get the message.

Morrik · 2004-01-19, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by SpunkJackel

I dunno Morik, maybe you havent seen enough Jack users. I'm fairly sure that 2 alt fire shots with Armor piercing ammo from the jack kill a max. Thats two clicks of the mouse, I mean I picked up SA just to do that with the deci, if my HA could do that i would be on cloud nine.

I have seen enough of the Jackhammer to know the weapon is annoying. Yes, I do agree it is annoying. Also, the Jackhammer does require a reload switch with Armor Piercing bullets and most people will have it on the regular bullets for obvious reasons. By the time they're done reloading, they're already face down on the ground.

I just try to take a more "role-playing" aspect in the game rather than trying to find errors in the game. Why worry about something when you can't physically change it? Find a workaround!

I must be the only optimistic paying customer.

KIAsan · 2004-01-19, 09:03 PM

Quick clarification on my post. There has been some comment about the JH getting the nerf (including from me). So, I hearby take back what I have said, it's not getting nerfed. I also thought the wording was interesting. Considering there have been alot of posts complaining about how the JH is too powerful indoors. Apparently, it was designed that way, so there is no basis to complain.

Morrik · 2004-01-19, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by KIAsan

Quick clarification on my post. There has been some comment about the JH getting the nerf (including from me). So, I hearby take back what I have said, it's not getting nerfed. I also thought the wording was interesting. Considering there have been alot of posts complaining about how the JH is too powerful indoors. Apparently, it was designed that way, so there is no basis to complain.

Taking that into aspect, the gun is useless outdoors unless close to the enemy. There are disadvantages and advantages to everything in the game. I'm still optimistic though.

Hamma · 2004-01-19, 09:18 PM

Changing the triple shot reload time is not a signifigant change/

Angel_of_Death · 2004-01-19, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by Morrik

Taking that into aspect, the gun is useless outdoors unless close to the enemy. There are disadvantages and advantages to everything in the game. I'm still optimistic though.

Useless outdoors....

Luckily every NC with a JH doesn't have surge or else the JH would own indoors and outdoors. But thankfully all NC don't have surge. Or else we'd be screwed.

Thankfully. Or else it would own.

(sarcasm)

GreyFlcn · 2004-01-20, 12:23 AM

SmokeJumperPS:

The tri-barrel reload time has effectively been a bug all this time. The original design calls for the tri-barrel to reload one barrel, then rotate, then reload another, then rotate, then reload the last. Fixing this brings it back to the balance intended...and it's overdue.

http://boards.station.sony.com/ubb/p.../001161-3.html

Yeh, that sums it up pretty well.

Morrik · 2004-01-20, 12:38 AM

Originally Posted by Angel_of_Death

Useless outdoors....

Luckily every NC with a JH doesn't have surge or else the JH would own indoors and outdoors. But thankfully all NC don't have surge. Or else we'd be screwed.

Thankfully. Or else it would own.

(sarcasm)

If there was an agreement bell next to me right now, it would be ringing off the charts.

Majik · 2004-01-20, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by Angel_of_Death

Luckily every NC with a JH doesn't have surge......

Just every NC over BR6 :P