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Old 2004-02-14, 12:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Base redesigns, cloaker(purpose) buff, and general sneakiness.


Alright. Just tossing a few random ideas inside my head.


Alright. First off, resdesign the gen room - While, yes, they are functional at the moment, I do not get a sense of awe and "Woah..." from going into one of these rooms. While I know they are designed for flexibility in being positioned anywhere (Bio lab vs. tech plant), lets just focus on the places with the generators in the basement/sub-basement, as the biolab couldnt work with this.


Alright. Any of you play goldeneye? Im sure there are at least some of you. Do you happen to recall the Silo level? The big, hollow missile shaft that had catwalks around the outside? Thats what I want for the gen rooms in PS. Make the generator fscking HUGE. Make the bottom extend to a point where if you just use the gen door, you cant see. Put an elevator to the bottom/top so you can gain access to various parts.

Also, the gen design itself - Ditch the spinning cylinder o' steel idea. Replace it with a sort of nuclear reactor - A large concrete, uninteresting column in the center. Though, this is subject to change. The gens can still be blown, but it will take MUCH more teamwork - more on that later.


First off, the catwalks and the elevator - Since this is now a multitiered environment, fighting will become MUCH more interesting in the gen room. Elevators can be destroyed by the attackers to slow the defenders, who are still able to ascend/descend via ladders.

Now, in line with WarBorns ideas, this would have a main terminal - Something very impressive-looking, overlooking the generator. This console controls NTU flow to various parts of the base, and the ability to nullify 1 of the base benefits. NTU flow can be alterd by a CR3, friendly OR ENEMY. However, for the enemy to utilize the ability to harness where the NTU's go, a secondary room, a security room of sorts, has to be hacked, and then, the person who has hacked that room must disable the security console in that room, and transfer manual override to the Generator Console.


Friendlies may only alter the flow of NTU's if
A: They are cr3+
B: They are in the outfit that owns the base.

This makes it so that random folks dont send all the the NTU's to a turret, and there can be some sort of conferencing between outfit members on how to manage the base.


Now, Enemies can alter the flow of NTU's if the said conditions are satisfied. If so, then the Generator Console is open to that Empire. Controls allow for the changing of NTU usage, and closing a "port" for ONE link benefit to the base(Read: If attacking an enemy locked continent, you can close the interlink benefit to help the raid on it)


The usage of NTU can be used to

1: Repair turrets/spawns
2: Decrease Spawn Time
3: Lower timers on vehicles and MAXes.

These benefits, however, drain NTU quickly, so you cannot maintain this super-base for very long.


The enemy, however, has an added option - Divert NTU's to Generator. Once this is selected, however, a large alert goes out to the base saying the NTU transfer has begun to occur. This can be circumvented, however, through the hacking of the security room. If the NTU is selected to be diverted to the Gen, and the security room is hacked, the ONLY notification is the last 10 seconds before the generator explodes.


Once the generator is destroyed, a backup one kicks on - the cause for the red lighting. However, this ALSO provides EXTREMELY limited benefits to the base - non-MAX equipment. So, a base can still defend itself if the primary gen is out, but they cannot spawn. Once the secondary gen is out, the entire base is plunged into complete dark. Need some sort of night vision/flashlight for this to work, though, I think it would be extremely 1337.


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Old 2004-02-14, 12:11 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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OMG spee you are a genious and I used to play GoldenEye don't any more but I know what you are talking about and that would rule. Only problem is this would require a full base overhaul seeing as how they cannot dig into the surface of auraxis seeing as how the physics engine doesn't allow it.
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Old 2004-02-14, 01:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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So in other words, there is no possibility of this ever making it it the game
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Old 2004-02-14, 01:22 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally Posted by Jaged
So in other words, there is no possibility of this ever making it it the game

Without a complete resdesign of the maps, and a monstrously awful download, no.
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Old 2004-02-14, 01:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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So in other words, its never gonna make it int....... Ah you know what I am going to say.



Edit: Most random ideas posted here never make it close to being coded into the game, so why am I bitching?
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Old 2004-02-14, 02:26 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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nonononono, no
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Old 2004-02-14, 02:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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The devs have wanted to redesign the bases since day 1. It's been a persistent regret for them, as well it should be. Because of budget and download concerns, they can't do it.
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Old 2004-02-14, 02:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by scarpas
nonononono, no

Mind elaborating why?
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Old 2004-02-14, 05:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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When the gen goes there has to be a huge explosion.When the gen reaches a critical level a 2min timer starts and when it reaches Zero a Nuclear explosion kills every one in base when the count down is activated there is no way to reverse it but people get constant warnings.
 
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Old 2004-02-14, 06:13 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Tbh I would'nt care if there was a massive download if it was something major like a complete base/ map redesign. I've downloaded large files before e.g. when counterstrike moved over to steam i had to download a 500mb file to play the game. It took a day or two constant connection but hey we all have cable here. I downloaded it cos I loved counterstrike and would do it for planetside. And I think alot of people should so devs if you are looking and ure probably not PEOPLE DO NOT MIND LARGE DOWNLOADS IF THE RESULT IS GOOD ENOUGH and I belive this would be....

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Old 2004-02-15, 05:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Yea the idea definately kicks ass..

Unfortunately though, there are tons of problems with it, and most of em spawn from the dev's actions and game engine.

This would add tons more screen lag to the game, since PS seems to render the stuff that isn't even on the screen as long as it would be in your viewing distance. The game already lags enough as it is.

Biggest problem though is with the way the devs have handled the game so far, they definately show that they're not interested in large changes. All i've really seen them do is a few gun tweaks here and there, and some new vehicles. And seriously, i'm a 3d modeler, and i've done low polygon models before. They really do not take that long to create, especially when you're talking about one or two vehicles, or just a new room..
I don't know why the devs take so long to make changes or add stuff.

Probably cause they just don't have the money since they lose so many subscribers
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Old 2004-02-16, 02:39 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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i really like this idea, i know they cant deform the map so why not go up instead ??
it might look a little different but it would still work.
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Old 2004-02-16, 02:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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This is a very good - but ambitious - idea. I like it a lot, but what with the game engine restrictions and such it feels like it might be something implemented into PlanetSide 2 instead..

But I would definitely like to see something like this.
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Old 2004-02-16, 02:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Yeah this game could use some more "Wow thats big, and cool ooking moments" Like the first time i walked int the Cery cavern to see all of those huge shiny ice cave things.
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Old 2004-02-16, 02:55 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Seriously. After all the balance issues are worked out, the game needs a major facelift.
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