Require LOS with the Phoenix?

[Colonel Nikolai]

I've noticed an unfortunate trend among the AV weapons. The Striker requires a LOS. The Lancer requires an LOS. But the Phoenix can be fired out a door of a tower, wrapped around a few trees, and slammed into a tank hiding in a ditch. I think that's a little bit unfair, don't you? Even arcing rounds over hills and into infantry is a rather annoying thing. You can't hit back with any of your weapons and the NC are free to slug away. What's worse, I've noticed a habit of Phoenix rounds to fly through gates, turn at courtyards, and slam into vehicle terms. That's just wrong, people.

I'd like to see the Phoenix missiles require a constant LOS back to the launcher, and will lose their homing and fly dumbfire if it is broken. This could represent the IR or radio waves sending the signal to the missile, so its perfectly plausable. Consider it; it would mean that AV troops are always required to be somewhat exposed, which makes it a fairer fight between tanks and infantry.

I do recognize that every empire gets its strenghts and weaknesses, but the Phoenix doesn't require a lock and is still guided. I think its just a little balancing tweak. I know you NC won't like it, but fair -is- fair. Ahh well, flame away.

A note: wire-guided missiles can snag on brush and the like, which can't be modeled.

[Happy lil Elf]

Ok, that's it. Can we get the smilie where they stand around beating on a dead horse?

[Hamma]

[Fragmatic]

Originally Posted by Fragmatic

The thing is, the NC have always used Phoenix's as a sniper weapon, it's just a fad that will pass....

Heck, remember when the Lodestar first came out?

[TheN00b]

Nik, no worries man, the fad will pass,at least moderately, in a few days/weeks.

[Dharkbayne]

I'm pretty sure the NC have to reload after every shot, and they are COMPLETELY undefended while guiding said missle though. It's balanced. Stop bitching.

[TheN00b]

Dharkbayne, those two factors are completely true, and they are both detriments to the Pheonix. However,Nik is not just bitching. It's quite easy to find cover behind a large ridge or some scattered rock formations, and once you've done that, the hailstorm of Pheonix fire can be a little unfair, even though you have to reload after every shot.

[Dharkbayne]

Personally, I love fighting pheonixs, because if you flank them, it's impossible to die from them.

[Happy lil Elf]

No, Nik is not bitching. He's beating a dead horse. This has already been argued over and over and over and over and over.

This horse [issue at hand] is dead. Please stop beating [pointlessly arguing] it.

[BadAsh]

Originally Posted by Dharkbayne

I'm pretty sure the NC have to reload after every shot, and they are COMPLETELY undefended while guiding said missle though. It's balanced. Stop bitching.

Those 2 nano-specks of negativity are inconsequential compared to the strengths of the weapon. It�s base power and havoc causing capabilities are truly unparalleled in the game. The Phoenix is still the undisputed KING of AV.

However, against soft targets the damage is manageable. If you start getting hit and you are on foot just locate the user and kill him. The Phoenix's range is somewhat limited, thankfully, so you know they can�t be too far away. Start hunting.

It is nice to see the boost in the number of AV troops out there. Combined with the recent mowing nerfs this should make vehicle kills be a little more earned... which is a good thing.

[Dharkbayne]

That is the pheonix's only benifit. Being able to attack from out of sight, if it WERE in sight, the pheonix user would become the biggest cloaker/sniper target in the game

[JakeLogan]

I understand your point. The Phoenix can attack you from perfect cover. but they can't see around themselves when it happens. but they can't like the TR strafe while firing in the middle of a battlefield. Or like the VS put 6 shots into your vehicle at extreme distances. each empires AV weapon has it's strength. but for the time being the Phoenix is the King of AV.

[dscytherulez]

In case you haven't noticed, phoenix NEEDS to be able to hide. One shot, then reload...not to mention you are completely open to attack from cloakers and the like while you're guiding the missle.

The no LOS is the only thing that makes the phoenix worth using. Stop complaining.

[MidnightDave]

while I currently hate the pheonix due to the zerg of em, kind of makes you sh*t your pants when u see 60 camera guided missles flying at you, I think making LOS is not the answer, and kind of defeats the purpose of em. Before the patch I actually loved to see em, it was kind of beautiful to see human flown rockets doing damage like that, im just tired of every JH noob who didnt like the fact that their precious shotgun didnt have a quad shot grabbing av and using that.

[SilverLord]

No. Let them hide and use their AV like it should be. They can't lock on which blows and us TR have lock, thanks

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