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Old 2004-02-24, 10:54 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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With all the talk about Phoenixes and Liberators taking down vehicle pads I think a simple solution is to provide some simple cover over the Vehicle Terminal. Just like the cat walk protects AMSes from Bombs just a small enough "roof" over the term would keep bombs from destroying the terminal and would be very difficult for any phoenix user to get that kinda angle into the term. All I envision is a little inverted L shaped roof over the terminal.

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*EDIT* = by roof over terminal I just don't mean the terminal but also over the heads of the few troops lucky enough to be under it.

If looking at the term it would stretch from behind your head and over the term and be exposed to the front where the vehicles come out. I wish I was any good at graphics and could draw this, but I can't.

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Old 2004-02-24, 10:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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I think a better solution would be to cover the in-courtyard terminal, and add 2 more pads outside each courtyard that are exposed to speed up the queues.
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Old 2004-02-24, 11:42 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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But isn't taking the Vehicle Pad out a legitimate tactic?

Why make getting powerful weapons easier?
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Old 2004-02-24, 11:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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It's a tactic only for NC legitimatly. Yes anyone can bomb but that takes precision, like was stated in another thread one Phoenix user alone can cripple an entire emprie from getting vehicles. This is to prevent that.
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Old 2004-02-24, 12:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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I take the point about the Phoenix.

But from my understanding (which is probably poor) this wouldn't necessarily prevent that whilst it sounds as if it might well reduce the effectiveness of bombing?
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Old 2004-02-24, 12:19 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally Posted by 2mthxTheSniper
But isn't taking the Vehicle Pad out a legitimate tactic?

Why make getting powerful weapons easier?
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It's a tactic only for NC legitimatly. Yes anyone can bomb but that takes precision, like was stated in another thread one Phoenix user alone can cripple an entire emprie from getting vehicles. This is to prevent that.
Ever hear of a bolt driver and anyone of those nice hills surrounding a base. You can take out the guys waiting in line for a vehicle which works about the same as destroying the term although not as effective in zergs its possible to get a crapload of kills by just sitting and watching the vpad with a bolt driver. If you can get another sniper with you and coordinate it can be devastating.
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Old 2004-02-24, 03:29 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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Legitimate tactic. Get countersnipers working on it or call in air support.
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Old 2004-02-24, 04:10 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by 2mthsTheSniper
But isn't taking the Vehicle Pad out a legitimate tactic?

Why make getting powerful weapons easier?

It�s only a tactic that certain bases are vulnerable to. The Dropship Center has a covered air vehicle terminal but has an open ground vehicle terminal. The Tech Facility has both a covered air and separate covered ground vehicle terminals. Other bases have a combined air/ground vehicle terminal and with a few AV hits, a Reaver rocket attack, or a Liberator Bombing can be disabled. Plus, because of the way the queue�s work you can kill a bunch of people waiting for a vehicle. To me that�s just a lame way to disable vehicles for some bases while racking up a bunch of easy soft target kills. Currently these exposed terminals are just Liberator, Flail, and to a lesser extent Reaver and Phoenix bait.

Because of this I don�t see a problem with covering all of the terminals to protect the terminal itself and those waiting for their ride. Perhaps this change could come with an increased difficulty with repair to make a special ops raid to disable the terminal worthwhile. Maybe a terminal down time after destruction timer? Or perhaps just make it difficult to repair. So it would have the same armor value it has now but perhaps repair as if it had 10x as much to facilitate the delay penalty. This would add the dynamic of special ops taking down the terminal and the counter ops team guarding the terminal and or repairing the terminal if lost.

Anything that promotes deliberate coordinated action over mindless kill spam attacking is top on my list for game play improvements. Nice Idea.
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Old 2004-02-24, 04:17 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Sounds like a good idea to me
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Old 2004-02-24, 04:38 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Sounds good but then the Liberaters main usage would be defeated. Also I think that if the guys that use the Pheonix want to just shoot a stationary object for 4 hours than by goly, go ahead.
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Old 2004-02-24, 04:48 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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It's a tactic only for NC legitimatly. Yes anyone can bomb but that takes precision,
Precision? No. A semi competent pilot and bombadier? Yes.
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Old 2004-02-24, 04:50 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Compromise. Make it a pretty cheap outfit point purchase when (if, from what it sounds like now) OBO comes out.
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Old 2004-02-24, 04:52 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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That'd work.
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Old 2004-02-24, 05:53 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by EarlyDawn
Compromise. Make it a pretty cheap outfit point purchase when (if, from what it sounds like now) OBO comes out.

Good Idea. Mabye there could also other additions u could by for your outfit base any ideas? umm how about an advanced med terminal, certification terminal, implant terminal. Mabye new gun turrents and/or bunkers but that would cost alot.

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Old 2004-02-24, 06:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Yep, this sounds a good idea; I may be a constant Pheonix user, but I can still see the logic in denying this particularly stupid but effective strategy .
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