Saw something i NEVER thought i would see!

Gunslanger · 2004-03-09, 02:39 PM

went to the official boards forums today (which i almost never do, since this site's forums are by far superior

) and people were HEAVILY debating on the lasher! people were COMPLAINING the LASHER is overpowered! cna you believe that!?

thats a new one for me

Black · 2004-03-09, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Gunslanger

went to the official boards forums today (which i almost never do, since this site's forums are by far superior

) and people were HEAVILY debating on the lasher! people were COMPLAINING the LASHER is overpowered! cna you believe that!?

thats a new one for me

nerf da lasher

VashTheStamped · 2004-03-09, 02:47 PM

not new. whiny losers do it all the time

Rayder · 2004-03-09, 03:10 PM

If the devs just made the lash only lash to the sides, it wouldn't be a problem (and fix the orb + lash).

Diddy Mao · 2004-03-09, 03:19 PM

Meh People will complain about something untill we are all shooting nerf guns in-game. But be careful they can put out and eye :-l

Gunslanger · 2004-03-09, 03:24 PM

man, i swear the lasher has always been substandard compared to the other empires superior HA weapons. i like using the JH or MCG for fun sometimes, but would hate being stuck with them. i'm spoiled; switching between regular and AP ammo sucks. i likes my beamer(more than the lasher) and my lasher.

Madcow · 2004-03-09, 03:28 PM

Have you been asleep since the last patch? Half of your empire now owns the Lasher, and they're spamming that buggy thing like mad. Of course people are complaining about it. There's a reason the sheep are all certing in it.

Gunslanger · 2004-03-09, 03:31 PM

Have you been asleep since the last patch

well...i play once a week lately. look at my player stats...hehe. and i try to aviod HA combat, seeing that my lasher lacks. when i go AI, i usually use my MAXes (comet or quasar). i am pretty good as infantry, but, prefer not to. usually, i like to set up mines, repair and man turrets, man cannons, and defend towers.

ZionsFire · 2004-03-09, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Gunslanger

well...i play once a week lately. look at my player stats...hehe. and i try to aviod HA combat, seeing that my lasher lacks. when i go AI, i usually use my MAXes (comet or quasar). i am pretty good as infantry, but, prefer not to. usually, i like to set up mines, repair and man turrets, man cannons, and defend towers.

HawkEye · 2004-03-09, 06:13 PM

lol, lasher is just a bit overpowered. and the shit where it lasher behind the user sux.

Pogostickx · 2004-03-09, 09:28 PM

the lasher is still weaker IMO...NC got it easy with the jackhammer

whenever i find one i pick it up and use it cus it takes 1 shot to kill someone.

Onizuka-GTO · 2004-03-09, 09:31 PM

If the lasher can kill with one shot, then i think it's justified to be called overpowered.

SilverLord · 2004-03-09, 09:49 PM

People...it's not overpowered...

It's fricken bugged, thats why we complain and to all you VS that use the lasher and think it's just fine, good for you, stfu and go away.

Stop whining because we are whining.

LimpBIT · 2004-03-09, 11:54 PM

Your on crack if you think that. They need to make it so the orbs get weaker the farther they travel. I get owned a normal basis with it and I use a jackhammer. It doesnt matter if its short range or far i still get owned. Im to the point where I just find some nice TR to fight instead of VS.

Krinsath · 2004-03-10, 12:32 AM

Problem with the lasher is the lash within 5m restriction is gone. People seem to miss the significance of this, and why it has caused these problems. For those who don't grasp the magnitude of the change, here's a synopsis:

1) The orbs lash enemy targets within 3m (correct that if I'm wrong) of the orb.

2) There is no restriction on how soon the orb starts this lash.

3) This means that if I am within 3m of the gun barrel (including behind) I will be hit by a lash.

4) If the lash inflicts at least 4 health (don't have the exact numbers...thought it was 5 or 6 though) then all the Lasher user needs to do is get within 3m and empty the clip to kill the enemy, as 4 health per lash x 25 lashes per clip = 100 health. No direct hits required, but this will speed the process up tremendously.

5) Also means that getting close to the Lasher user is not smart.

6) The people hit by it the worst are the NC JH users, ironically enough. Their weapon is only effective within 5m, which is about where the Lasher gets it's free automatic hits...the JH can still win, but has to put the Lasher down extremely quickly and hope he doesn't have a Barney friend.

7) Once the Lasher has to be 5ms away before it starts lashing, there will be a sharp decrease in the number of people using it, as it will no longer get easy surgemonkey kills (no easier than any other HA at any rate).

8) Bandwagoners will abandon the Lasher, as it has now been "nerfed".

Might be right, might be wrong...but that's the most likely outcome as I can see it. As I've said elsewhere, the 5m restriction being lifted was the only change to the damage equation made by the Devs. Nobody really complained about the damage the Lasher did before, but the Lasher didn't have this area of free damage around it either. That area is being taken away...though I still believe the VS should be given a competent MA rifle to reduce the Lasher users. The Pulsar would do more damage boiling water to throw at the enemy then it does on it's own.