Upcomming Surge Changes!

[EarlyDawn]

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Comming next patch... surge will holster weapons when in use. Discuss.

[Marsman]

Here is the snipet just so we have it here in the thread.

Originally Posted by Sporkfire

Once we have the 2.5 update out the door, we begin testing on version 2.6. In that update, weapons will be automatically holstered when surge is activated, returning the implant to a travel/defensive function as opposed to an offensive one. You'll see this as part of Monday's Weekly Dev Activities post.

Update: Some additional clarification by Spork

Originally Posted by Sporkfire

A couple of specifics to point out:
1) Surge will holster any drawn piece of equipment: REK, BANK, ACE, etc.
2) Surge will need to be manually disabled (or disabled by stamina depletion, of course) before a weapon can be drawn. This is by design, since allowing a weapon to be drawn while still surged allows for many of the same combat benefits as before.

[JakeLogan]

Well guess the shotgun smurfs need to come up with a new tactic

[Desperado]

damn, i loved bailing over a busy tower and surging my way down in an insane suicide mission, taking about 7 or 8 people with me

[dscytherulez]

That's stupid. I'm opposed to this entirely and it looks like I'll be dropping surge, as even as it stands running from place to place is useful, closing gaps will now be undoable. Why can't they just fix the warping? What person uses surge defensively? If you waste time running away, you're more then likely to get shot in the back, not to mention you just gave your opponent the ability to stay alive longer. In a world in which you can not die, defensive actions are pointless.

Fix the warping, save the surge.

[Wraithlord]

Yes, all of them will start using the gauss rifle, which is arguably the best assualt rifle from close to medium range. All the newblets will start bitching about that, just wait and see.

At least I think its the best, I constantly rush lasher and mcg users with it and come out on top 3-4 times out of 5, but I do play a ton and know how to dodge and "exploit" the lag delay properly to avoid fire at close range (ie how to NOT take damage when your computer thinks you are behind someone but theirs doesnt). The cycler and the pulsar are far less effective at close combat due to their higher ttks.

Also something alot of you dont think about, the muzzle flash of a guass shoved in their face effectivley blinds them and makes yor target profile about twice as big as with a cycler or pulsar, that and the higher ttk make it a GREAT weapon, much more versitile than the jackhammer.

[Jaged]

No more surging boomer runs for my cloaker.

I think they should allow you to carry an ACE while surging. No one complains about that...

[Queensidecastle]

Friken idiots. Time to cancel my Subscription heh

[Wraithlord]

Hey man you can still surge into spawn room, draw it and plant it, run off then detonate it. You can just turn surge off when your there, it only takes about .3 of a second

[Queensidecastle]

I am astonished at the pure stupidity that it must take to pick that choice out of all the vastly superrior ideas in reguards to the surge/warping problem

Simply astonishing. Well, its been fun.. Time for another game it seems

[Dharkbayne]

Oh boo hoo Queensidecastle, you can't be a super rambo instakiller now, cry me a fucking river.

[Zatrais]

I love it! No more warping surgerbunnies fighting whitout any honor.

[Queensidecastle]

Thats actually kinda funny considering my main character is an Infiltrator. Try again?

At any rate, its time to hit them in the pocketbook and Cancel. You dont change something so core to the game this long after release because you are so god damn lazy you cant muster what is necessary to fix it properly. I just am not going to give these retards my money anymore. I suggest anyone that feels the same also "vote" with thier pocketbook

[Dharkbayne]

Surge was turning the game into quake, I'm glad it got nerfed, you can still use it to get behind the enemy quickly when outside and flank them, that's what I used it for when I had it anyways.

[FireWolf22]

I just want to point one thing out to you all. We, the NC, listen to you all bitching about us misusing surge. I see here in this post that not a single NC bitched about not being able to surge with the JH. I personnally don't use it. I do use the gause with surge. I also use the Cycler with surge. Have not used the pulsar with surge, dropped my VS guy before I got surge. I don't like that the devs are makeing surge like this. Also about the warping thing, I have a pretty monster machine and have never seen anyone warping around my screen, same on my not so monster machine. I have been standing behind VS AI maxs and them shooting the wall(and the rounds leaving marks on the walls) and still taking damage. So I don't understand how if it's your PC or your internet connection, it's the devs problem. I have seen way more surgile MCG and Lasher users than JH users. Both on the Markov as TR, and playing NC. I have taken 5 screens of the TR on Forseral at gwydion using MCG's and surge.

I was dropped in a max by 5 MCG surgers. I know then that 50 TR using mcg's and surge showed up. The reason for this was they were in the spawn room before the camera could make a entire sweep of the room from right to left with back to wall between the purch terms. That is approx 1/2 of a turn. Aprrox 3 secs from being dropped to seeing right door to left door. Thats a lot of troops moving damn fast.

Now I'm not bitching that you all are using surge. I don't think you are using it in a wrong way. I'm just saying that if we use it it's wrong, but if you use it is okay and just a formality.

Either they take it out or they leave it the way it is.



P.S. see what bitching and yelling for a nerf on something gets you. about time they nerfed us all at once.