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Old 2003-02-25, 12:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Lost in Britain: The Right of Self-Defense


http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?n...rder=0&thold=0

"...from my cold dead hands" still rings true. Who'd have figured they'd be cold and dead because you were executed for defending yourself.

be careful what you wish for folks. you just might get it.

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Old 2003-02-25, 12:27 PM   [Ignore Me] #2
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This was bit of an extreme hypothetical scenario. Why didn't this guy register his shotgun? He was breaking the law by having an unregistered firearm. For reasons that I don't agree with, most brit's seem to be very pro gun controll.

If you do something similar in the US you would get atleast a felony gun possesion offence. Felony's are no joke.

This guy would not get first degree murder, he would likely get a manslaughter charge (as it was not premeditated and was in self defense).

I am not extremely familliar with Biritish law so I am not sure what your rights for defending yourself in your home are now or what your rights were in days past.
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Old 2003-02-25, 12:30 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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uh..no. Not hypothetical....if you read close, this was a true story and the man received life in prison.

The judge sentences you to life in prison. This case really happened. On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk, England, killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was convicted and is now serving a life term.
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Old 2003-02-25, 12:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Portions of the circumstances must have been left out. I can not see how it could have been first degree murder. There was no way it could have been premeditated.

At worst it would have been second or thrid degree.
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Old 2003-02-25, 01:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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xuur you sound like one of those racist NRA freeks , you dont need fuckin guns for self deffence, if some one breaks into your house you beat em with a stick . Guns should be banned ,people dont need em ,they serve no purpose .
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Old 2003-02-25, 01:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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would you care to rephrase that?


racist how?
freak how?

your insults only reveal your ignorance to the subject at hand.
I've ignored your bullshit until now.

you want to debate..sure. lets


you want to insult...keep it to yourself. I have no use for those who enter a debate of the mind unarmed.


and get a fucking dictionary.
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Old 2003-02-25, 01:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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ok xuur, pull out the white glove and slap him.
you want to debate..sure. lets
improper sentence... wheres ur mighty dictionary now?

i mean we need guns but chill out man. stuff like that last post really does make u sound like a stressed out, about to go shoot a bunch of church people, NRA freak.

people talk shit on here, its just the way forums work, so take everything with a grain of salt.

p.s. this is written with so dont think im tryin to insult u.

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Old 2003-02-25, 01:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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First off The NRA is run by one of the most Racist people I have ever seen, second only to the likes of the KKK and In my opinion anyone, who associates themsleves with people like that deserve to be grouped into that same catagory . Second I live in canada and if I have a gun in my house that im not aloud to have,and I shoot someone thats broken into my house , I damn well expect to get in trouble for it .
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Old 2003-02-25, 01:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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didnt hitler group people in mass catagories?...
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Old 2003-02-25, 01:49 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Hmm... I'd reply to this thread, but I don't think anything could come of it.
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Old 2003-02-25, 01:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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I dont know why I replied either, I better walk away beofre I dig myself a fresh hole, ive been being good I best keep it that way

Sorry xuur I really dont care either way
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Old 2003-02-25, 02:07 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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to be honest i just wanted to put in my $.02.
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Old 2003-02-25, 02:08 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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there should be no gun control in America. If we ban guns from the public the next thing we now the Queen of England would be in here pushing us all around? You want the damn Brits in here telling us what to do again???
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Old 2003-02-25, 02:36 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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I'm with Mistled
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Old 2003-02-25, 02:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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What part of 'shall not be infringed' do you not understand?
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