New Twitter pic: NC shotgun

FIREk · 2012-01-03, 06:57 PM

No idea what this could be. Seems to small for a Jackhammer. Might be an empire-specific shotgun, or somehow an NC-customized common-pool shotgun.

I just hope this doesn't mean that NC get the strongest per-shot shotgun and TR are stuck with lame semi-auto shotguns and whatever mediocre crap comes out of Nanite Systems' factories. :P

Empire themes aside, every player should have access to the same most-powerful-first-shot-slow-fire-rate weapon, otherwise the balance is gimped. This goes for shotguns and sniper rifles, obviously. Imagine how silly it would be for NC to have the Bolt Driver, and the TR to have the Scout Rifle or whatever that semi-auto "sniper" rifle is called in PS1.

SKYeXile · 2012-01-03, 07:07 PM

Yea i would hope that through attachments and mods you could customise a weapon enough so it would be similar to the other factions. so they NC could not be modded to hit any harder, but the the VS and TR could at the loss of rate of fire, cof, reload etc.

SKYeXile · 2012-01-03, 07:08 PM

i think it would have to be the jackhammer though, i think they said only like 20 weapons yea? or maybe that was per faction...

DeadlyButters · 2012-01-03, 07:08 PM

its empire specific for NC because I think the NS guns have no empire textures on them for any faction and the style of tht gun fits the the style of the NC (box/square shape). But you have to admit the NC guns are the best and beefiest looking guns of the lot

EASyEightyEight · 2012-01-03, 07:08 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if the common pool weaponry all had a texture representative of the empire that pulled it.

Additionally, it wouldn't surprise me if the common pool weaponry all had appearances custom tailored to their respective empires, but they all performed exactly the same anyway. Since we won't have to concern ourselves with ammo boxes directly, the Vanu sweeper could fire off plasma balls the size of pellets and the ammo would still believably pass as "shotgun shells." They plug a battery into their rifles for ammo, why not tiny little capsules packed full of molten goodness into their shotguns?

EDIT: I'm under the impression if SOE is going to do something, they won't do it half way. Everything they've shown us to date supports the notion they're way into overkill with everything they do regarding Planetside. We don't NEED textures so sharp the individual threads on a sweater under the armor have full texture and bump maps, and the only way to see them in all their glory is with a high powered scope at point. Blank. Range.

But they do look damn nice!

HELLFISH88 · 2012-01-03, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by EASyEightyEight

Wouldn't surprise me if the common pool weaponry all had a texture representative of the empire that pulled it.

Additionally, it wouldn't surprise me if the common pool weaponry all had appearances custom tailored to their respective empires, but they all performed exactly the same anyway. Since we won't have to concern ourselves with ammo boxes directly, the Vanu sweeper could fire off plasma balls the size of pellets and the ammo would still believably pass as "shotgun shells." They plug a battery into their rifles for ammo, why not tiny little capsules packed full of molten goodness into their shotguns?

EDIT: I'm under the impression if SOE is going to do something, they won't do it half way. Everything they've shown us to date supports the notion they're way into overkill with everything they do regarding Planetside. We don't NEED textures so sharp the individual threads on a sweater under the armor have full texture and bump maps, and the only way to see them in all their glory is with a high powered scope at point. Blank. Range.

But they do look damn nice!

And we are getting them anyway so FUCK YEAH.

Death2All · 2012-01-03, 08:10 PM

Looks wicked.

Any shotgun with the shells ON the gun is bound to kick ass.

Crator · 2012-01-03, 08:52 PM

Nice! Love it!

LZachariah · 2012-01-03, 08:56 PM

Even as a hardcore Vanu, I sure as Hell know that this weapon kicks ass!

~Zachariah

bjorntju1 · 2012-01-03, 08:57 PM

Looks amazing!

However i think it is an NC-only shotgun. Looking at the grip that looks alot like the one on the PS2 Gauss rifle.

Lonehunter · 2012-01-03, 09:11 PM

If there's only one barrel, it shouldn't be called a Jackhammer

Bittermen · 2012-01-03, 09:42 PM

Looooks sick

Erendil · 2012-01-03, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by FIREk

No idea what this could be. Seems to small for a Jackhammer. Might be an empire-specific shotgun, or somehow an NC-customized common-pool shotgun.

That looks like the NC version of the Sweeper. It's not hefty enough looking to be a JH. I expect that all common pool weapons in PS2 will have unique looks from empire to empire, even if their weapons stats are the same (which they may or may not be). Kinda like the ES 6-shooters in PS1.

Originally Posted by FIREk

I just hope this doesn't mean that NC get the strongest per-shot shotgun and TR are stuck with lame semi-auto shotguns and whatever mediocre crap comes out of Nanite Systems' factories. :P

Empire themes aside, every player should have access to the same most-powerful-first-shot-slow-fire-rate weapon, otherwise the balance is gimped. This goes for shotguns and sniper rifles, obviously. Imagine how silly it would be for NC to have the Bolt Driver, and the TR to have the Scout Rifle or whatever that semi-auto "sniper" rifle is called in PS1.

I'd have no problem letting the NC mod their weapons to hit harder than their stock versions and at a level that other Empires just couldn't match through any customization, but only if their TTK is slower than the lighter hitting, faster RoF TR/VS counterparts.

All else being equal, the more damage a weapon can do per shot, the slower its TTK should be. This is where PS1 weapon balance sometimes failed us.

For example, the JH was so dominant in CQC in large part because not only did it hit the hardest per shot, but its TTK was also the fastest. So you didn't have to have your reticle constantly on target like the MCG did and if you timed your shots with your ADA strafes you usually won up close.

However, the Sweeper was pretty well balanced against ESMA rifles up close largely due to this inverse relationship of DPS <-> TTK. ESMA rifles had the faster TTK, but they required you to keep your reticle on target the whole time while your stream of bullets slammed into your target. OTOH the Sweeper still came out on top vs ESMA on many occasions because even tho its TTK was slower it hit way harder per shot so 4 well-timed reticle sweeps across your target was enough to get the kill.

Bags · 2012-01-03, 09:57 PM

While I think the jackhammer is cooler, that's prety damn beast looking.

LZachariah · 2012-01-03, 10:11 PM

T-Ray named it as an NC weapon in his post "NC shotty to the body." I doubt that it's the Jackhammer, since the Jackhammer's tri-barreled look is so iconic. So perhaps, it's just a standard Medium Assault shotgun, OR this is the Jackhammer with a sidegrade that might greatly increase the damage (ie- a huge bore diameter) in exchange for much slower rate of fire (ie- only one barrel instead of three).

~Zachariah