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Old 2012-04-18, 11:35 PM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Here is what I think should be in the outfit package, I would pay for this...


1. Outfit name... of course.

2. Outfit emblem distinction, probably in already.

3. Robust outfit rank structure...
*a. Large pool of definable ranks.
*b. Mouseover rank description, to explain outfit-specific rank responsibilities.
*c. Ranks with definable permanencies, ie. some ranks last a certain duration (1hr, 1day...), that revert to previous rank, for brevets.
*d. Rank permissions for join, kick, promote, demote, warnings, accolades, with specificity to each rank (or department) it can effect, rank by rank.

4. Time defined warning system ("red status" can fade after a while to lower color state... etc.) via color and/or sound alarm, and hidden message box for warning content.

5. Member accolade system via color, merit badge, or some-such outfit visable item, with a time-defined termination period, to include permanent. Perhaps tied into an outfit banner message system (item 13 below).

6. Outfit graphics such as emblem on vehicles and uniforms, special defined uniform colors, and perhaps uploaded outfit rank insignias.

7. Member resume, a small mousover blurb about whatever the member wishes to say, which can give officers an idea of their goals.

8. Outfit billboard for advertising who we are, and... an outfit welcomeboard for important reminders, a "start kit" for new members, and expectations, etc.

9. Outfit voice chat... that works good...

10. Definable departments / divisions to distiguish members for various outfit-specific reasons "armor branch", "motor pool", "retired officers"... whatever. This can be done by color or whatever, but needs a readable key to be plainly understood.

11. A culling tool, by warnings accumulated, or inactivity, etc. Also governed by permissions use.

12. Outfit cert tree, this is just mentioned for thoroughness, its already in I believe... but there needs to be recert functionality.

13. Outfit broadcast banner, a quick message from permissioned members to broadcast a center banner for a quick necessary message.

14. A suggestion box (that can be disabled, and emptied), with an member selected anonymity option.

15. Some like the idea of a mothership / base, so I mention for thoroughness.


Thats what I got for now... but this is not just my show, jump in if you have good / better ideas. I couldnt care less about credit, just a great outfit suite...


Edit: Perhaps a "Table of Organization" visual, that can be pulled up to assign, and view, members affiliation with whatever department / grouping. Complete with the NCO(s) and officer(s) in charge, as a simple rank-descending list for simplicity.

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Old 2012-04-19, 03:05 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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All of this should be free because it allows the game to grow if there are no restrictions on forming outfits, with the exception of #15 which shouldn't be in the game at all.
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Old 2012-04-19, 12:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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All of this should be free because it allows the game to grow if there are no restrictions on forming outfits, with the exception of #15 which shouldn't be in the game at all.
That would be fantastic...
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Old 2012-04-19, 01:20 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Originally Posted by Purple View Post
All of this should be free because it allows the game to grow if there are no restrictions on forming outfits, with the exception of #15 which shouldn't be in the game at all.
Agree'd. Some of those ideas already are in other games, and are totally free.
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Old 2012-04-19, 05:59 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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An outfit forming charge doesn't seem excessive to me, although I think a one-time fee would certainly be best.
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Old 2012-04-19, 06:43 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Originally Posted by Talek Krell View Post
An outfit forming charge doesn't seem excessive to me, although I think a one-time fee would certainly be best.
but the the game really isent free to play. this a a social game if you put up a barrier for people to fourm groups or make them pay for things that should be standard for outfits then it takes away from the player base. if a player is going to spend the money to create an outfit then he has already decided to spend the money on the game. dont you think he would rather have skins instead of just paying for a group.
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Old 2012-04-19, 07:34 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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#9 - any worthwhile outfit can afford its own TS/Vent/skype server/channel.
#15 - i used to think this was a good idea, until I considered the nature of some groups and how bases affect things. Then It became a terrible idea.

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Old 2012-04-19, 07:44 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
#9 - any worthwhile outfit can afford its own TS/Vent/skype server/channel.
#15 - i used to think this was a good idea, until I considered the nature of some groups and how bases affect things. Then It became a terrible idea.
true alot of people have TS or other voice chat systems but PS2 is going to provide its own Voice com system (you dont have to use it if you dont want to). its supposed to be good also unlike other games.
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Old 2012-04-19, 07:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Originally Posted by Purple View Post
true alot of people have TS or other voice chat systems but PS2 is going to provide its own Voice com system (you dont have to use it if you dont want to). its supposed to be good also unlike other games.
if you have to rely on game provided voice, yer doin it wrong.
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Old 2012-04-19, 09:05 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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I think items 3, 5, 10, and other similar features could be included for free but have a paid premium version that allows more variety.

Frankly, I don't think the more casual F2P gamers are going to want all this flexibility. Or rather, I think they'd have a more enjoyable experience without too many options (in a lot of games guilds, clans, outfits, whatever suffer from having tiny "on a whim" groups that have far too complex ranking systems and motds etc. and honestly are more annoying than fun to be in)

People who are serious about running outfits will pay for more premium packages.

That being said, some of this stuff should definitely be in the game for free (except the bases/motherships)

Originally Posted by p0intman View Post
if you have to rely on game provided voice, yer doin it wrong.
They are planning on putting in a [working] VoIP feature. That said, I'm sure most outfits will opt for the standalone option.

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Old 2012-04-20, 05:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally Posted by Purple View Post
but the the game really isent free to play. this a a social game if you put up a barrier for people to fourm groups or make them pay for things that should be standard for outfits then it takes away from the player base.
"Forming a group" is making a squad. An outfit is a long term commitment and if a player is serious about founding one. Not joining one, founding it. Then forking over a few of the dollars that you've not been spending to play the game is not that much to ask.

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Old 2012-04-20, 06:47 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Re: Premium Outfit Package Ideas


The Devs have all expressed that joining an Outfit is about as integral to the experience as shooting your gun and if you don't join up your missing out on most of what the game has to offer.

I understand that they need to make money but I think outfit mechanics should come standard. If they have to make us pay then atleast make it one time fee not a subscription.

I suppose some of your ideas that are cosmetic could be included only for money but definitely anything involving gameplay/ranking and organization should be standard for sure.
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Old 2012-04-20, 06:51 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Originally Posted by Gonefshn View Post
The Devs have all expressed that joining an Outfit
Joining an outfit is not the same as founding an outfit, and no one has suggesting that being a part of one should cost money.
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Old 2012-04-20, 07:12 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Originally Posted by Talek Krell View Post
Joining an outfit is not the same as founding an outfit, and no one has suggesting that being a part of one should cost money.
I see your point and I mentioned in my post that if there was something that costed money it should be a 1 time fee. What i was thinking in my head is a fee to found the outfit not a joining fee. Sorry I could have made that more clear cause that is not at all what I was trying to say.
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Old 2012-04-20, 08:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by Gonefshn View Post
I mentioned in my post that if there was something that costed money it should be a 1 time fee.
I agree with that, certainly. I can't see any sense in making it an ongoing cost.
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