New Snipers scope My idea to enhance the Scope to make it better for reconning !

Stew · 2012-05-01, 05:09 AM

As a recon units i think that having scope who as a kinda rotating compass around the scope could Be really usefull and nice with thats concept the infiltrator (( recon units )) will be able to call anemies position properly without even having to make useless calculation or estimation they will be able to call rigth away from theyre scope Two ennemy sniper watching the north tower North north east over ennemies tank convoy spoted South east of the south tower etc... so i think it should be really nice

I think NSWE cardinal point have to be show but also NW NE SE SW and the circular compass turn while the sniper turn ! This could be really nice if the letter arent to big and distractive

This is just a (( prototype )) so it would not be great its conceptual
even in my point of view ive made the letter to big and not well placed but the concept is more important !

So whats u guys think

Toppopia · 2012-05-01, 05:16 AM

Wouldn't that be an equipment like Binoculars or something? But that is a good idea, i have always liked relaying enemy positions to my teammates in other games, mostly battlefield 3 or Modern Warfare 3 which was a bit pointless in those 2 games because 1 had spotting and 1 was too fast paced for the info to stay current, but in this game it will be an essential tool for outfits deciding what to attack, and i think all classes should have the option of the Binoculars so that its not too restrictive on the person.

Acutally, maybe the infiltrator can get a special item that can be more accurate like give co-ordinates or something while everyone else can choose a compass or something not as high tech but still useful or scouting.

Stew · 2012-05-01, 05:21 AM

Originally Posted by Toppopia

Wouldn't that be an equipment like Binoculars or something? But that is a good idea, i have always liked relaying enemy positions to my teammates in other games, mostly battlefield 3 or Modern Warfare 3 which was a bit pointless in those 2 games because 1 had spotting and 1 was too fast paced for the info to stay current, but in this game it will be an essential tool for outfits deciding what to attack, and i think all classes should have the option of the Binoculars so that its not too restrictive on the person.

Acutally, maybe the infiltrator can get a special item that can be more accurate like give co-ordinates or something while everyone else can choose a compass or something not as high tech but still useful or scouting.

I think everyones should get a 360 compass on the minimap thats for sure but now my idea is all about making a (( IN SCOPE )) compass thats help from the sigth to identify and call ennemy position from far with a good presicion !

Toppopia · 2012-05-01, 05:25 AM

Thats what i was saying with the Binoculars idea, but a scope should do that as well, but maybe there could be a dedicated recon tool that gives good information to the player that they can relay to everyone else. Would give more meaning to actually sending out recon teams to a base prior to hitting it.

Zenben · 2012-05-01, 05:58 AM

I have always liked the idea of 3D spotting, but only if limited to infiltrators that have spec'd into some sort of recon skillset.

Canaris · 2012-05-01, 08:03 AM

even without spotting this is still a great idea

Kran De Loy · 2012-05-01, 08:54 AM

Having a compass on the scope? Er, no thank you.

I mean, take a very brief glance at that thing floating over the minimap. It's a compass. It's a compass that works far better than having something distracting moving at the edges of you're visuals whenever you twitch to get another shot lined up. It will (probably) be on a toggle for people that do not want it cluttering up their screen (I personally would rather the minimap stays stuck with UP is N so I can tell at a quick glance what direction I'm facing. Since I should be making frequent quick glances at the minimap to keep track of multiple different things anyway I don't see a reason to need a compass as well.

To make having a compass a certification is about as dense as you can get without putting your lead skullcap on.

That said, having Binoculars as an easy and quick item that can be certed would be alright if SOE needed to flesh out their cert trees. Otherwise it should just be part of the default loadout for Squad Leaders.

Anything about 3D spotting has been gone over in other threads. But I agree, 3D spotting should be heavily limited and I'll wait to see how SOE are going to go about it before I start getting into detail about it again.

Stew · 2012-05-01, 09:12 AM

Originally Posted by Kran De Loy

Having a compass on the scope? Er, no thank you.

I mean, take a very brief glance at that thing floating over the minimap. It's a compass. It's a compass that works far better than having something distracting moving at the edges of you're visuals whenever you twitch to get another shot lined up. It will (probably) be on a toggle for people that do not want it cluttering up their screen (I personally would rather the minimap stays stuck with UP is N so I can tell at a quick glance what direction I'm facing. Since I should be making frequent quick glances at the minimap to keep track of multiple different things anyway I don't see a reason to need a compass as well.

To make having a compass a certification is about as dense as you can get without putting your lead skullcap on.

That said, having Binoculars as an easy and quick item that can be certed would be alright if SOE needed to flesh out their cert trees. Otherwise it should just be part of the default loadout for Squad Leaders.

Anything about 3D spotting has been gone over in other threads. But I agree, 3D spotting should be heavily limited and I'll wait to see how SOE are going to go about it before I start getting into detail about it again.

Ur compleatly out dude !

Recon class need recon tools why talking about squad leader ability etc..

Having a compass around the scope will not be more distractive than the scope design itself !

The minimap isnt precise as sniper scopes and to scouts a ennemy base this Systhem is PErfect !

Sorry to have to say this but ur almost off topic !

Stew · 2012-05-01, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Kran De Loy

It's a compass that works far better than having something distracting moving at the edges of you're visuals whenever you twitch to get another shot lined up..

And also this video proove that mooving edjes like u sai arent that distractive ive play borderlands only (( mooving edjes )) useless art style decision and it did not even distract me once from my amasing head shot lol

Stardouser · 2012-05-01, 09:18 AM

If everyone can 3D spot like in Battlefield, then there is zero point to giving special spotting tools to sniper rifles.

On the other hand, if you limit it to sniper rifles AND squad only, then there's a point to it.

But until we see otherwise, my fear is that we will have 3D spotting exactly as per BF3 and 1 player will spot, and it will be able to be seen by everyone in a 1 km radius, which could easily be 300 people.

Stew · 2012-05-01, 09:21 AM

Originally Posted by Stardouser

If everyone can 3D spot like in Battlefield, then there is zero point to giving special spotting tools to sniper rifles.

On the other hand, if you limit it to sniper rifles AND squad only, then there's a point to it.

But until we see otherwise, my fear is that we will have 3D spotting exactly as per BF3 and 1 player will spot, and it will be able to be seen by everyone in a 1 km radius, which could easily be 300 people.

This isnt about 3D spotting thanks this tread is about having a compass around the scope to help recon to give intel about ennemy position defense turrets etc..

please try to stay on topic thanks

Stardouser · 2012-05-01, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by Stew

This isnt about 3D spotting thanks this tread is about having a compass around the scope to help recon to give intel about ennemy position defense turrets etc..

please try to stay on topic thanks

Actually, it is. BEcause if we have 3D spotting, then there is zero reason to do what you ask. If you can 3D spot, then it's a waste of time to give you compass data because you won't need it, you will just click Q and everyone for a mile will see it.

If you want something like this to be in the game and useful, first you are going to have to crusade against omniscient spotting, or there will be no need to have what you are asking for.

Stew · 2012-05-01, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Stardouser

Actually, it is. BEcause if we have 3D spotting, then there is zero reason to do what you ask. If you can 3D spot, then it's a waste of time to give you compass data because you won't need it, you will just click Q and everyone for a mile will see it.

If you want something like this to be in the game and useful, first you are going to have to crusade against omniscient spotting, or there will be no need to have what you are asking for.

I do not want 3d spotting its already a PAIN in the ass in Bf3 to get shot by Red dot hunters having 600 potential shooter whooting at u because u have a red dot over your head is simply RIDICULOUS !

I want tools to comunicate and also to map ourself and ennemys thats MEAN

GRID MAPS
COMPASS on SCOPE for Recon
And 360 degre compass arounf the minimap !

Only squad lead should have Objective spotting Not ennemys

headcrab13 · 2012-05-01, 12:11 PM

This thread kinda makes my head hurt, but while I personally don't snipe much or spend time spotting, I don't see anything wrong with putting a thin compass ring around the inner scope.

It's client side, it's easy to design, cheap to render, and might help some recon guys.

Stew · 2012-05-01, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by headcrab13

This thread kinda makes my head hurt, but while I personally don't snipe much or spend time spotting, I don't see anything wrong with putting a thin compass ring around the inner scope.

It's client side, it's easy to design, cheap to render, and might help some recon guys.

Iam not a recon guys thats much but if i had to do recon operation this would be great to call out ennemy from the sigth view !

It will improove the quality of comunication and also improove the reacon roles instead of trying to get 3d spotting like anoying Bf3 red dot hunting !