This'll make you think - torture

Navaron · 2003-03-10, 11:11 AM

Here's an editorial by Buchanan on torture.

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/p...20030310.shtml

Whaddya think?

Mtx · 2003-03-10, 11:16 AM

Lowering yourself to their level makes you no better than them.

No exceptions..

Hamma · 2003-03-10, 11:36 AM

I agree with mtx here (scary)

I heard him spouting off about this on Buchanan and Press (msnbc)

Squeeky · 2003-03-10, 11:38 AM

Torture is just bad

mistled · 2003-03-10, 11:44 AM

I'm not sure what I think. It depends on what you consider torture I think. If I had valuable information and was captured by the enemy, I fully expect to be reduced to a bloody pulp as they try to retrieve it. I have no problem with that. They are trying to save themselves by getting information from me, so that's fine. Saving lives is worth the beating of an individual.

I also do not believe the above to be torture.

Having established that I have no problem using pain to gain information (how else do you expect to get it from someone who hates you??), this brings us to the question of why I don't agree with the concept of torture. Isn't it also just using pain to get information?? Logically, I think it is, and so I should be for torturing him for the information. Maybe it's just my societal conditioning that causes me to not be initially.

Having said all that, let me state that I think torture for the sake of torture is wrong. But, then again, I also think just beating the hell out of your prisioners is wrong too, even when it's not torture. (not that I would complain about some marines who hit some taliban just because they are there)

- mistled

Navaron · 2003-03-10, 12:01 PM

Here's a little info on how our interrogation process works. We beat the hell out of them. If they continue to not respond, we threaten to send them to Jordan or Egypt, who are the coldest interrogation sum bitches ever. So I guess you could say we sub-contract out our torture. However, the threat of the trip to Egypt usually is enough.

Mtx · 2003-03-10, 12:33 PM

Ah great.. my country is led by hipacrits.

Sputty · 2003-03-10, 12:43 PM

Anything Pat Buchanan says is wrong. He says every country/race/religion that isn't his own is basically wrong...

simba · 2003-03-10, 01:00 PM

its right to use against ppl that wont speak

Mtx · 2003-03-10, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by simba
its right to use against ppl that wont speak

So what if you don't know the answer to the question you are being asked? It's okay for me to beat you to death?

****************
MTX: Where's Waldo!

Simba: I told you *gasp* I don't know.

MTX: Lier!!

*begins beating Simba with a trout*

Navaron · 2003-03-10, 01:39 PM

I'm not posting my pov on this on purpose, but MTX, you have a bad habit of taking things out of context.

Sputty · 2003-03-10, 01:49 PM

Waldo must be protected!!! Don't talk Simba!!!

Mtx · 2003-03-10, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by {BOHICA}Navaron
I'm scared of posting my opinion because MTX owns me.

That's right!

Simba will tell me where Waldo is. Either that or I drop this hungry lobster in Sputtys pants.

mistled · 2003-03-10, 02:03 PM

Don't start posting lies about people. It's a good way to get banned. (yes, I know you're playing, but don't change people's words and quote them)

simba · 2003-03-10, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by Mtx
So what if you don't know the answer to the question you are being asked? It's okay for me to beat you to death?

****************
MTX: Where's Waldo!

Simba: I told you *gasp* I don't know.

MTX: Lier!!

*begins beating Simba with a trout*

you must be sure if he knows before