Ground vehicle driving

[Figment]

Considering drivers apparently will not get third person, nor any situational awareness, we need:

• Rear view mirrors
• Side view mirrors
• When reversing, a beeping noise to warn cloakers/infantry
• A distance to obstruction warning signal
• When driving anywhere, a beeping noise to warn cloakers/infantry
• When rotating anywhere, a beeping noise to warn cloakers/infantry
• Pedestrian crossroads in bases, canyons and elsewhere
• Penalty drivers license (special grief system for collissions and driving over friendlies)
• Penalties for infantry doing dutch crossings
• Driving licenses being revoked upon too much friendly damage
• Huge bumpers and crumplezones for collissions.
• Horns
• GMs with a degree in traffic police

All of that, or third person.

Please note that third person can be done such that it still only shows those units who are actually spotted for vehicles as well:

[Warborn]

This is why we need friendly fire. Without friendly fire, how will stupid infiltrators who wander around like assholes in the middle of bases where vehicles are liable to drive through while also being cloaked? Those people need to die. That is why friendly fire needs to be in the game. Every cloaked friendly someone kills with their bumper should reward the driver and give grief points to the infiltrator for being dumb.

[Toppopia]

Originally Posted by Warborn

This is why we need friendly fire. Without friendly fire, how will stupid infiltrators who wander around like assholes in the middle of bases where vehicles are liable to drive through while also being cloaked? Those people need to die. That is why friendly fire needs to be in the game. Every cloaked friendly someone kills with their bumper should reward the driver and give grief points to the infiltrator for being dumb.

Yeah that is true... You need friendly fire or else people will run in front of teammates and block their shots and be annoying. And people need to have more situational awareness. and the minimap will show teammates behind you so it will be easyish to see them.

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Originally Posted by Toppopia

Yeah that is true... You need friendly fire or else people will run in front of teammates and block their shots and be annoying. And people need to have more situational awareness. and the minimap will show teammates behind you so it will be easyish to see them.

If friendlies are on the minimap, how the hell would you hit cloakers in front of you?

Answer: people don't look at the minimap.

[Mechzz]

The TB video shows 3rd person on the magrider just before it kills the lightning, so the mechanic is in the game.

I was never aware of 3rd person view in a vehicle being particularly abusable, or is that just naive old me again?

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Originally Posted by Mechzz

The TB video shows 3rd person on the magrider just before it kills the lightning, so the mechanic is in the game.

Looked through the video and neither Magrider bit has third person.

[Wargrim]

I like the idea of having 3rd person view only for a dedicated driver. Part of the fun of driving and operating the main gun at the same time is the challenge of getting used to the limited view you have. ( Unless it is a game where your viewing port is even smaller than your screen. Luckily that is not the case here. )

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Originally Posted by Wargrim

I like the idea of having 3rd person view only for a dedicated driver. Part of the fun of driving and operating the main gun at the same time is the challenge of getting used to the limited view you have. ( Unless it is a game where your viewing port is even smaller than your screen. Luckily that is not the case here. )

Driving in World of Tanks with just sniper view (what you get in PS2) is horrible tbh.

[Mechzz]

Originally Posted by Figment

Looked through the video and neither Magrider bit has third person.

At 17:46, after he captures the control point, he leaves the building and enters the magrider. Then, for a second or two, he is in third person before the lightning appears.

[Figment]

Originally Posted by Mechzz

At 17:46, after he captures the control point, he leaves the building and enters the magrider. Then, for a second or two, he is in third person before the lightning appears.

I stand corrected. Thanks.

[Mechzz]

Originally Posted by Figment

I stand corrected. Thanks.

Sorry, just me being lazy and not bothering to quote the time in the first post. Watched the vid like 5 times already and couldn't be arsed looking for it

It's only a few secs and easy to miss, since it's so natural.

I'm for 3rd person on vehcs until someone points out how it can be abused.

[Figment]

Honestly third person is not really abusable if executed well. I wouldn't mind third person on infantry either if it is just showing those who have been detected by your team.

Would also encourage leaning around corners. It's a very natural thing to do (and leaning WOULD expose you a bit).

With a similar spotting system to WoT, it's fine IMO.

[Stardouser]

Aircraft are getting uber cockpits.

Why not give vehicles a 3D cockpit and just include a rear facing camera?

[MacXXcaM]

I would like 3rd person in vehicles as well as aircraft. 3rd person infantry views wouldn't be too bad either but I can certainly live without it.

[Baneblade]

As long as 3rd person is tied to the vehicle and not the turret.