"Influence"...what does it do?

[OutlawDr]

Last night I was watching the Totalbuscuit E3 videos again. Some random guy was looking at the map, but something caught my eye. For each territory section, there was something called "influence" along with a pie chart showing a percentage for each empire. Here are some pics
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6636384/PS2/influence1.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6636384/PS2/influence2.png

I was planning to write up a huge ass thread about an idea to integrate territorial control of the map and resources on the map to a more persistent metagame. I was going to call it "influence", but then I saw this. At first I thought I'll need to change the name, but when I tried to figure out what influence does, I couldn't come up with anything solid.

So does anyone know what influence does exactly? I couldn't find any info on it through forums search or wiki. Maybe Im searching for the wrong things. Someone should know.
It doesn't correspond to who owns the territory, since Vanu has control of one with a clear TR majority in the influence pie chart. Its doesn't represent ownership of surrounding territories. And it doesn't correspond to current ticket count for base ownership. The Zurvan area was even 33% split, but current ticket count at the time of the screenshot was no where near that.

[NewSith]

My best guess - reinventation of the classic PS tactical map mode. Just showing how many enemies are in the area.

[Mechzz]

I don't recall anything official describing influence. It came up in another thread and we decided it was the "fuck spec-ops" button to give away infil teams before they've hacked the first term. I'm only half-kidding btw.

[Meriv]

Easy one, it is just how many hex of which faction are confinant to calculate the time for cap, higher the influence faster will be it

Did i got a beta key?

Edit: for that reason the E3 hex that has the NC at left and Vanu at right of the map goot an equal amount 33% each

[Anderz]

Could that just be a pie graph of who currently owns each control point within the base?

That being said, a pie graph seems like a weird way to display that....

[willaguy]

Exactly what Meriv said, it is just a way of telling who owns the most territory around that hex, and how fast the capture of the points will be based on the amount of territory surrounding it.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Meriv

Easy one, it is just how many hex of which faction are confinant to calculate the time for cap, higher the influence faster will be it

Did i got a beta key?

not sure, check the mouse cursor position on the second screenshot. In that case your suggestion is quite illogical.

[Saifoda]

Originally Posted by OutlawDr

Last night I was watching the Totalbuscuit E3 videos again. Some random guy was looking at the map, but something caught my eye. For each territory section, there was something called "influence" along with a pie chart showing a percentage for each empire. Here are some pics
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6636384/PS2/influence1.png
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6636384/PS2/influence2.png

I was planning to write up a huge ass thread about an idea to integrate territorial control of the map and resources on the map to a more persistent metagame. I was going to call it "influence", but then I saw this. At first I thought I'll need to change the name, but when I tried to figure out what influence does, I couldn't come up with anything solid.

So does anyone know what influence does exactly? I couldn't find any info on it through forums search or wiki. Maybe Im searching for the wrong things. Someone should know.
It doesn't correspond to who owns the territory, since Vanu has control of one with a clear TR majority in the influence pie chart. Its doesn't represent ownership of surrounding territories. And it doesn't correspond to current ticket count for base ownership. The Zurvan area was even 33% split, but current ticket count at the time of the screenshot was no where near that.

You sure about the surrounding territory thing? I'm pretty sure that's what it is, as it directly *affects* how quickly you are able to capture an enemy base -- if your empire has a high amount of influence, you can capture it quickly. If the influence is low or 0, it takes much longer.



EDIT: ..Effects?....Affects? .....meh, whatever.

[Malorn]

E3 Demo may have overridden the normal influence system for demo purposes.

I'm quite sure "influence" is the territory adjacency system that influences capture time.

[NewSith]

Originally Posted by Saifoda

You sure about the surrounding territory thing? I'm pretty sure that's what it is, as it directly *affects* how quickly you are able to capture an enemy base -- if your empire has a high amount of influence, you can capture it quickly. If the influence is low or 0, it takes much longer.



EDIT: ..Effects?....Affects? .....meh, whatever.

Please read comment above yours. Why do VS have less influence than NC on a hex to which NC don't even have access to? I know I'm invisible, but i think reading my posts sometimes makes sense.

[Mechzz]

Originally Posted by NewSith

not sure, check the mouse cursor position on the second screenshot. In that case your suggestion is quite illogical.

Yeah, hence my concern that "influence" is also impacted by the number of players in the hex. So the more OCD elements of the player base can sit in the map screen and watch for "twitches" in influence that indicate infiltrating squads taking up position for spec-ops work.

[Meriv]

Originally Posted by Malorn

E3 Demo may have overridden the normal influence system for demo purposes.

I'm quite sure "influence" is the territory adjacency system that influences capture time.

It is the most logic reason, plus it comes from a TR (quite important thing)

[Saifoda]

Originally Posted by NewSith

Please read comment above yours. Why do VS have less influence than NC on a hex to which NC don't even have access to? I know I'm invisible, but i think reading my posts sometimes makes sense.

Please read the time-stamps before trying out sarcasm.


Anywho, an explanation (I'm not saying it's what it is, but it's possible) is that hex-influence, if we're assuming it is territory, could extend to not just adjacent hexes but other hexes one or two away, which there are a decent amount of NC hexes that would fit that.

[Shlomoshun]

I'd hope that proximity to the sanctuary would also have some effect on this 'influence' Thus, for a side that is pushed back to their gates (or outnumbered, either way), it's somewhat easier for them to hold at least some sort of line and some sort of sphere of influence over the land.

[OutlawDr]

So no one knows for sure? There is no past official explanation on this?
Its possible that its the capture time system not working for E3, but that still leaves us in speculation mode.

EDIT: Hamma confirmed it. Its the capture time system