Computer upgrade help

CheeZeX · 2012-06-16, 09:43 AM

I'm building a PC for PS2. Purchasing all the parts this coming thursday.

PLEASE tell me if the specs will be enough for PS2 I played PS1 for YEARS and I want a great experience with 2. I don't want to buy a bunch of things only to find out it didn't work in my favor...

Intel Core i5 2500k 3.3 -> 3.7 turbod (may OC this going forward)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115072

8Gig gskill ripjaw ddr3 ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231468

ASRock Extreme4 Z77
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...2E16813s157293

Nvidia GTX 570 Superclocked 1280mb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130622

750w PSU

60gbSSD discretely for games, 1tb HD for everything else

Thanks fellas!

Rbstr · 2012-06-16, 10:18 AM

If you're buying it for PS2 alone, wait until the beta is out, at least.
Don't buy fancy RAM. DDR1600 is plenty. RAM overclocking doesn't get you much at all.
Your motherboard link was removed from Newegg.

I like the GTX570, but the GTX660 is going to be released soon and, given the 670's performance, you probably want to wait and see how it stacks up.

CheeZeX · 2012-06-16, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by Rbstr

If you're buying it for PS2 alone, wait until the beta is out, at least.
Don't buy fancy RAM. DDR1600 is plenty. RAM overclocking doesn't get you much at all.
Your motherboard link was removed from Newegg.

I like the GTX570, but the GTX660 is going to be released soon and, given the 670's performance, you probably want to wait and see how it stacks up.

Here's a new link to the motherboard.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157293

See Higby said the Beta will be out in the next couple/few (id say 2-4) weeks. I'm looking to purchase everything on thursday, and by the time its all shipped here and put together / tested properly then I think the beta should be out.

Noted on the ram I won't go for anything crazy in that department then.

CPU good? PSU should be perfect.

GPU: Is the 660 going to be any way different price wise? I'm looking to spend around 1k and I'm getting pretty close as it is.

Thanks for the reply!

CheeZeX · 2012-06-16, 10:32 AM

Actually I think I'm going to buy everything BUT the GPU and wait until PS2 Beta is announced, (they usually start it a week after announcement) and based on that time frame order my GPU. Supposedly the 660 will be out late june and thats like a week and a half away.

Vancha · 2012-06-16, 10:52 AM

I think you could probably knock down the PSU to a 500-600w and mobo to something cheaper to make room for a 670 or at least a 120GB SSD.

Which SSD are you planning on getting, by the way?

CheeZeX · 2012-06-16, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Vancha

I think you could probably knock down the PSU to a 500-600w and mobo to something cheaper to make room for a 670 or at least a 120GB SSD.

Which SSD are you planning on getting, by the way?

Vancha! long time no see

Well when I tallied up the wattage of each part it came out to be 660 minimum, so I figure a 750 will be a good amount of leeway.

60gig SSD (dedicated for games and the OS): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227725

Rbstr · 2012-06-16, 11:54 AM

The CPU is fine...Depending on how much you want to overclock you might go with an Ivy Bridge chip instead. They put out less heat, but run hotter because they're more dense so overclocking isn't as easy...but you net like 10% performance a stock speeds.

Waiting on graphics is the right choice...you might still go with the 570, but who knows. (the 660 could end up anywhere from like $300 to 350 I think, hard to say)
If the GTX660 is good, you'll probably save a good amount of power again. Which might make a 650w PSU usable.
I tend to see more recommendations for the Crucial M4 SSD's because they're owned by Micron, who makes their chips and they don't use the Sandforce controler (I have their 50gb cache drive, works pretty well)

Goku · 2012-06-16, 12:20 PM

Answer these questions please.

CheeZeX · 2012-06-16, 01:13 PM

Woops sorry Goku.

1. What is your budget and does that include shipping/taxes?
Not including monitor: $1000

2. Where do you live (Please list if possible town, state, and country)?
Rochester NY, USA

3. What do you need this computer to do (like gaming, Photoshop, and so on)?
Gaming.

4. What parts will you need for the computer? Please list what parts specifically.
Everything, brand spanken new.

5. Are you reusing any parts for this computer? If so please say what parts.
V-V-N

6. What kind of monitor/resolution do you have or want to get to use for the computer?
24inch, 1920x1080 Asus glossy black

7. Do you have a legit OS? If so what OS and is it 32-bit or 64-bit?
Legit Windows 7 pro 64bit

8. What are you looking for the motherboard to have feature wise? Like SLI, Crossfire, Firewire, USB 3.0, Sata 6.0 Gb/s, and so on.
SLI, USB 3/2.0, Sata 6.0

9. Any plans to overclock the CPU or GPU?
Possible CPU, not GPU

10. What time kind of time frame are you planning on ordering these parts?
2-3 weeks.

Vancha · 2012-06-16, 02:22 PM

Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 / Bitfenix Shinobi
CPU: i5 3570k
Mobo: Wait...
RAM: G.Skill Value 8GB
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 670 OC
SSD: Crucial m4 128GB
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (Sata cables come with the mobo)
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 620w

Total: $1099.92

That's as cheap as I could tolerate making it, however I know micro center has some crazy CPU+Motherboard deal that'll knock a bit off the extra $100. I suppose you could bump the SSD back to 64GB, but with your OS and the size of games these days that just seems too small to me.

CheeZeX · 2012-06-16, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Case: Fractal Design Core 3000 / Bitfenix Shinobi
CPU: i5 3570k
Mobo: Wait...
RAM: G.Skill Value 8GB
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 670 OC
SSD: Crucial m4 128GB
HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB (Sata cables come with the mobo)
PSU: Antec Neo Eco 620w

Total: $1099.92

That's as cheap as I could tolerate making it, however I know micro center has some crazy CPU+Motherboard deal that'll knock a bit off the extra $100. I suppose you could bump the SSD back to 64GB, but with your OS and the size of games these days that just seems too small to me.

I like this very much, however i have a question regarding the i5 3570k. I heard the 2500k was much easier to overclock because of sandy bridge runs cooler than ivy bridge. if this is true shouldn't i use the 2500k over the 3570?
I may just buy this setup like you posted!

Vancha · 2012-06-16, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by CheeZeX

I like this very much, however i have a question regarding the i5 3570k. I heard the 2500k was much easier to overclock because of sandy bridge runs cooler than ivy bridge. if this is true shouldn't i use the 2500k over the 3570?
I may just buy this setup like you posted!

Depends if you're just looking for a decent gaming OC or if you have a thing for overclocking things to their limits. To my understanding, IB wouldn't be harder to overclock, it just wouldn't OC as far...but even that would be somewhat mitigated by the fact that IB is faster clock for clock.

Edit: Also, that $1099 included a motherboard, but it didn't support SLI so I went to find something different. Turns out the cheapest SLI board is about $30 more expensive, but again that shouldn't matter if you can do the micro center thing.

CheeZeX · 2012-06-16, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by Vancha

Depends if you're just looking for a decent gaming OC or if you have a thing for overclocking things to their limits. To my understanding, IB wouldn't be harder to overclock, it just wouldn't OC as far...but even that would be somewhat mitigated by the fact that IB is faster clock for clock.

Edit: Also, that $1099 included a motherboard, but it didn't support SLI so I went to find something different. Turns out the cheapest SLI board is about $30 more expensive, but again that shouldn't matter if you can do the micro center thing.

Unfortunately I don't live near a microncenter and it seems like their deals are in-store only. I'll double check though.

Ya doesn't look that promising since I live basically next to canada. Is there a mobo you recommend and I look around for the best price? I may have some friends able to stop by a microcenter and pick one up for me.

Vancha · 2012-06-16, 03:37 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128542

You might not get the best overclock on it, but it's imo the cheapest mobo with SLI capability. If you can get a friend to do the micro center thing, you can get that motherboard for $89

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130647
There's also this one for $10 cheaper at Newegg, but for SLI it'd starve the top card of air and that's assuming the top card's cooler wasn't blocking the second x16 slot.

Rbstr · 2012-06-16, 03:59 PM

The issue with IB vs SB is that IB is on a smaller process. That means it puts out less heat but it's packed more closely together. This means it hits higher temps.
If I were you I'd not care about the OC that much and just go IB. It's not like you're going to get a bazillion FPS from the overclock.

I wouldn't worry about an SLI capable board if you're looking at SLI capability in the future vs getting a 670 today.
Also, if you're scrounging for cash, drop the SSD.