Left Handed Soldiers?

Toppopia · 2012-06-23, 03:08 AM

I havn't seen anything about this, but can we change what hand our weapons are in? Not only to fight around corners more effectively, but we can choose to be left handed like we are in real life. But i would mostly use it when i was using cover, allows me to only expose tiny amount of body when looking around corners.

AThreatToYou · 2012-06-23, 03:10 AM

I don't think this is a good idea for that exact reason. People would just macro hotswap the hand their weapon is in so they could peak around whatever corner angle they happen to be on more effectively. If it is an option, they should just flat-out give us a hotkey for it so we aren't stuck with a macro.

And, I haven't seen that answered anywhere.

Zekeen · 2012-06-23, 03:11 AM

Doubt it, that'd be a ton of work. They'd have to have mirrored animationed for that, and that could get very messy. And if that doesn't sound tough enough, they would have trouble in the graphical sense, such as the guns firing the empty bullet casings to the RIGHT. You could say things such as "There is no such thing as a left handed soldier", because most guns are made for right handed people. Left handed guns are generally custom made and expensive.

But yeah, would take a TON of work to make it all left handed, or else it would look VERY wonky.

Toppopia · 2012-06-23, 03:12 AM

Originally Posted by AThreatToYou

I don't think this is a good idea for that exact reason. People would just macro hotswap the hand their weapon is in so they could peak around whatever corner angle they happen to be on more effectively. If it is an option, they should just flat-out give us a hotkey for it so we aren't stuck with a macro.

And, I haven't seen that answered anywhere.

I think that is the reason i want it. so i can look round different corners effectively, or else make it an option for in the options that only change of death, so you can not be stuck as either hand, but can't just change whenever.

Toppopia · 2012-06-23, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by Zekeen

Doubt it, that'd be a ton of work. They'd have to have mirrored animationed for that, and that could get very messy. And if that doesn't sound tough enough, they would have trouble in the graphical sense, such as the guns firing the empty bullet casings to the RIGHT. You could say things such as "There is no such thing as a left handed soldier", because most guns are made for right handed people. Left handed guns are generally custom made and expensive.

But yeah, would take a TON of work to make it all left handed, or else it would look VERY wonky.

All you do is flip the animation, and these guns are made from nanites, so they repurpose themselves to be left handed, and wouldn't all it take is just the current animations but flipped? Doesn't sound too hard.

Edit: So if i join the army, i get forced to be right handed?

Sabot · 2012-06-23, 03:29 AM

Originally Posted by Zekeen

Doubt it, that'd be a ton of work. They'd have to have mirrored animationed for that, and that could get very messy. And if that doesn't sound tough enough, they would have trouble in the graphical sense, such as the guns firing the empty bullet casings to the RIGHT. You could say things such as "There is no such thing as a left handed soldier", because most guns are made for right handed people. Left handed guns are generally custom made and expensive.

But yeah, would take a TON of work to make it all left handed, or else it would look VERY wonky.

Most guns and carbines are actually made for both left and right handed people, with mag release button located infront of the trigger or behind the body, and a quick dismantling allows you to place the saftey and the bolt on the other side of the weapon. But that's a none issue in a game... The other reasons you mentioned are probably correct though.

Notser · 2012-06-23, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by Toppopia

All you do is flip the animation, and these guns are made from nanites, so they repurpose themselves to be left handed, and wouldn't all it take is just the current animations but flipped? Doesn't sound too hard.

Edit: So if i join the army, i get forced to be right handed?

Yes, if you join the US army you will be taught to shoot right handed. They tried to with the pc for business purposes. It is just easier and left/right handed is really just experience.

Zekeen · 2012-06-23, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by Sabot

Most guns and carbines are actually made for both left and right handed people, with mag release button located infront of the trigger or behind the body, and a quick dismantling allows you to place the saftey and the bolt on the other side of the weapon. But that's a none issue in a game... The other reasons you mentioned are probably correct though.

Good too know! I must be a bit old fashioned in my thinking. I figured the army would have fixed it...but the army hates fixing things... unless it's fixed by shooting it... then they love to fix it.

But yeah, animation mirroring is much harder than it seems and causes all sorts of issues. For once, they actually program in where the bullet comes from and all this. Now, think on that as a single entity, double it, and now it has to keep track of that. Now, add in 1000 people, see how odd it sounds? It's a lot more complex than that, but code loves to get tied into knots and it takes a LOT of work to keep it from doing so.

Coreldan · 2012-06-23, 03:54 AM

Probably one of the best features in APB

Canaris · 2012-06-23, 03:56 AM

even Counterstrike VANILLA had it

Ruffdog · 2012-06-23, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by Notser

Yes, if you join the US army you will be taught to shoot right handed.

That's strange. In certain circumstances a righty would be a weakness and a lefty would be a strength. See pic below:

Toppopia · 2012-06-23, 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ruffdog

That's strange. In certain circumstances a righty would be a weakness and a lefty would be a strength. See pic below:

That is actually why i want left handedness, so in some situations i am good. And plus i am left handed in real life, and i don't feel like killing myself because i am using a right handed tool. Its true, we die more often with right handed stuff than right handers do. Its a dangerous world for us lefties.

Sabot · 2012-06-23, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by Zekeen

Good too know! I must be a bit old fashioned in my thinking. I figured the army would have fixed it...but the army hates fixing things... unless it's fixed by shooting it... then they love to fix it.

But yeah, animation mirroring is much harder than it seems and causes all sorts of issues. For once, they actually program in where the bullet comes from and all this. Now, think on that as a single entity, double it, and now it has to keep track of that. Now, add in 1000 people, see how odd it sounds? It's a lot more complex than that, but code loves to get tied into knots and it takes a LOT of work to keep it from doing so.

Hehe it's not the army that fixes those kind of things... it's the companies that develop the guns. Making them useable to both left and right handed people just makes sense, as they will more likely sell the weapons then

But in the end, you will be taught to more or less effectively shoot with both left and right hands.

Yeah, I don't really have much of a clue when it comes to these things... but I can imagine it's more of a hassle than one would think it is. So much more going on under the hood than what we see on screen.

Originally Posted by Toppopia

That is actually why i want left handedness, so in some situations i am good. And plus i am left handed in real life, and i don't feel like killing myself because i am using a right handed tool. Its true, we die more often with right handed stuff than right handers do. Its a dangerous world for us lefties.

I'm right handed and I actually switched to left hand in CS way back... just 'cause, you know. At first was freaky and I suddenly couldn't hit anything, even though no other setting had changed. But after a while I got used to it, and it felt like I was doing better than when I used right hand setting... I probably wasn't, but it feelt like it. ^^
Anyway, I suppose it's kind of the same for you though, isn't it? I mean you sohuld get used to the right hand after awhile, no?

Toppopia · 2012-06-23, 04:38 AM

Originally Posted by Sabot

Hehe it's not the army that fixes those kind of things... it's the companies that develop the guns. Making them useable to both left and right handed people just makes sense, as they will more likely sell the weapons then

But in the end, you will be taught to more or less effectively shoot with both left and right hands.

Yeah, I don't really have much of a clue when it comes to these things... but I can imagine it's more of a hassle than one would think it is. So much more going on under the hood than what we see on screen.

I'm right handed and I actually switched to left hand in CS way back... just 'cause, you know. At first was freaky and I suddenly couldn't hit anything, even though no other setting had changed. But after a while I got used to it, and it felt like I was doing better than when I used right hand setting... I probably wasn't, but it feelt like it. ^^
Anyway, I suppose it's kind of the same for you though, isn't it? I mean you sohuld get used to the right hand after awhile, no?

Wait.. you were making a good argument about shy left handed is cool and such, then right at the end, you then say i should get over it and adapt. (I assume you didn't mean it like that, but it sounds like it.)

Fek · 2012-06-23, 07:39 AM

I'm pretty sure in nearly all games the bullets come out a point in the centre of the body (e.g. the tip of the head) rather than where the gun is, and that hitboxes are symmetrical.