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Old 2012-07-14, 04:36 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Alright, so my tech language is really poor and I don't know the real difference between one piece of equipment and another except for price and company.

Anyway, I have two queries:
1) Dream machine where money is not an issue

2) My actual thing :P
1. What is your budget and does that include shipping/taxes?
Budget around $1000 not including shipping and handling which won't be a problem
2. Where do you live (Please list if possible town, state, and country)?
Not necessary, I don't think. This is for shipping and handling?
3. What do you need this computer to do (like gaming, Photoshop, and so on)?
Gaming primarily, maybe some streaming, with some programming practice here and there
4. What parts will you need for the computer? Please list what parts specifically.
Hardware inside the case. Mouse/keyboard, monitor, and case not an issue
5. Are you reusing any parts for this computer? If so please say what parts.
Nope :P
6. What kind of monitor/resolution do you have or want to get to use for the computer?
Would like to get anything that can work within 1000's x 1000's
7. Do you have a legit OS? If so what OS and is it 32-bit or 64-bit?
Windows 7 64-bit
8. What are you looking for the motherboard to have feature wise? Like SLI, Crossfire, Firewire, USB 3.0, Sata 6.0 Gb/s, and so on.
I actually have no idea for this since I don't know the real difference or what each actually mean lol
9. Any plans to overclock the CPU or GPU?
No plans to, but who knows in the distant future
10. What time kind of time frame are you planning on ordering these parts?
Just planning on putting everything together when I get them, no real time frame except perhaps within the next month or two.
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Old 2012-07-14, 09:12 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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What specific case do you have? Once I know this we can move forward.
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Old 2012-07-14, 12:21 PM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Ah, I'm actually putting my money on the Rosewill Thor V2-W

Just liking the look of it and will probably personalize it a little more once I get the computer working and sustainable

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And once I get it working to a satisfactory level, I'll toy around with the idea of the water cooling, lol.
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Old 2012-07-14, 01:02 PM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Can I just say, that case is slightly overkill considering you don't know what SLi, Crossfire, USB 3.0 or Sata are. I'd suggest something slightly more modest for your first build.
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Old 2012-07-14, 01:37 PM   [Ignore Me] #5
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Originally Posted by Vancha View Post
Can I just say, that case is slightly overkill considering you don't know what SLi, Crossfire, USB 3.0 or Sata are. I'd suggest something slightly more modest for your first build.
I agree. $170 for a huge case you done even need when your budget is only $1000 is dumb.

Take a look at the Antec 300, NZXT Source 220 and HAF 912.

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Old 2012-07-14, 02:14 PM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Antec One Illusion or Rosewill Future/Challenger actually seem better at that price-point, though I'm thinking a decent MicroATX build might be nice...Something like a Fractal Arc Mini or Lian Li A04.

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Old 2012-07-14, 04:24 PM   [Ignore Me] #7
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2. Where do you live (Please list if possible town, state, and country)?
Not necessary, I don't think. This is for shipping and handling?
this is asked so you can be refered to local shops that may offer steep discounts on parts when compared to online retailers. I live within driving distance of a couple Micro Centers for example and as such I can usually pick up motherboard and cpu combos for far less than I could order them online for.
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Old 2012-07-14, 08:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #8
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if he gets a small case and wants to upgrade later on he might limit himself. If you want a cool big case it can't cause any problems and with the proper fan placement will allow for better, less cramped air flow. Howver, if this is part of your $1000 dollar budget its excessive and you can use the extra cash for much more important needs...

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Old 2012-07-15, 09:07 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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Actually I wanted a full case because when I get to a point of wanting to upgrade again I won't have to worry about space at all as was mentioned. I'm planning on this to be a sort of "work in progress" as I upgrade and buy new parts over the next few years. And the price is not coming out of the original $1000 dollars, actually I'm not the one spending money on that particular piece, though the person who suggested a bunch of cases had this one and a Rosewill phantom? Or something like that... looks like something Alienware would produce.

And as far as local places, that's why I'm here as well, I want to see what I can get online (which everyone has access to and is familiar with) and then go to the places I know that I'm pretty sure I can get a discount at. I just know I can find everything online so after I figure out what's good I can go to the stores and compare products and prices then.

I'm not totally daft (only slightly and only to certain people :P) and there is a method to my madness, so I hope that there is less confusion now ^^;;

Edit:
Also, as far as the big case and my lack of knowledge on hardware... My philosophy is that if I get something that has the potential to use these things, I'll figure out how to use them sooner or later

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Old 2012-07-15, 02:25 PM   [Ignore Me] #10
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What space are you going to need?...a well designed mid-tower still gives access to all of the motherboard's slots.

Are you planing on having more than 4 or 5 hard disks?
Or do you want interior room for a completely internal build-it-yourself watercooling set up?

Those are the only two practical reasons I really see for needing a full tower.

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if he gets a small case and wants to upgrade later on he might limit himself. If you want a cool big case it can't cause any problems and with the proper fan placement will allow for better, less cramped air flow.
This just doesn't matter as much as people want to think.
If you like the looks so much, whatever. It's the only bit you'll be looking at so get what you want.
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Old 2012-07-15, 03:01 PM   [Ignore Me] #11
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I love my current full tower http://www.frys.com/product/5927304?...FSMCQAodQwzndg

You wont be taking it to lan parties anytime soon. My total PC probably ballparks around 50-60 pounds.



It left plenty of room for a great CPU cooler Coolermaster V6 GT
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103089
(cooler on a motherboard, not mine, proving that for big coolers, you need big space)

And I fit one of the largest cards currently the ATI 7970 with no problem. Could crossfire or SLI in the future where ever I wanted to go.

(my actual PC)

Another reason I like larger cases is that you have plenty of room to work and fit air cans to combat dust ect.... I would say that is the one thing that puts my case at a disadvantage is filtration.

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Old 2012-07-15, 05:33 PM   [Ignore Me] #12
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...all of those things will fit in a normal mid tower.

If my motherboard supported it, I could do quad SLi...but that's a moot point as no smart person should ever do that anyway.
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Old 2012-07-15, 06:06 PM   [Ignore Me] #13
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I don't disagree, but his case is picked and unless he wants to go to lan parties around town and has space in his house, I think it's fine. I just wanted to provide some perspective for the size as a happy full tower owner.
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Old 2012-07-15, 08:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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Thanks for the interest and concerns, folks, but practicality, logic, and purpose aside I just wanted a full tower. I have seen plenty of incredibly well built mid sized ones and it had crossed my mind but I'm just simply not interested in one
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Old 2012-07-15, 09:04 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Now I'm confused. Do you or do you not have a monitor? You say its covered, but list anything over 1000x1000 (even more confusing) is what you want.
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