will there ever be 2000 player battles?

Realmofdarkness · 2012-08-13, 04:12 AM

was just thinking. 2000 players (accounts) on one sever. one server will have 3 continents. if players fancy all continents equal then it will be 2000/3 = 666 players per continent. and then maybe not everybody is playing at the same time. hard to estimate but lets say only 1/3 play at the time. then we are down to 222 players per continent. not that massive?? or am I thinking wrong here?

FortySe7en · 2012-08-13, 04:19 AM

222 players in a base battle isn't massive? Interesting. When is the last time you took 222 people and put them in the same room with guns.

Think about that.

Scotsh · 2012-08-13, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by Realmofdarkness

was just thinking. 2000 players (accounts) on one sever.

Not 2000 accounts per server, there might be a multitude of 2000 accounts registered to a single server.

one server will have 3 continents. if players fancy all continents equal then it will be 2000/3 = 666 players per continent.

Serverlimit for players logged on might be higher than 2000 players.

or am I thinking wrong here?

Yes.

You got it all confused with the (targeted) limit of 2000 players per continent. If they reach that number, that will simply mean that the continent is closed to more players. But of course the other continents will then be still available.

Ivam Akorahil · 2012-08-13, 04:20 AM

Originally Posted by Realmofdarkness

was just thinking. 2000 players (accounts) on one sever. one server will have 3 continents. if players fancy all continents equal then it will be 2000/3 = 666 players per continent. and then maybe not everybody is playing at the same time. hard to estimate but lets say only 1/3 play at the time. then we are down to 222 players per continent. not that massive?? or am I thinking wrong here?

your wrong its 6000 per server, 2000 per continent

the cap for activ players per server is 6000 which is probably going to happen easily, because active players does not mean the amount of people who have chars on servers

there can easily be 30000 people having chars on one server but only 6000 of them can play at the same time

also the 2000 per continent/6000 per server is the guaranteed minimum soe assured
if the tech goes with it they might allow more

where the hell do you people get your numbers from ? :V

Realmofdarkness · 2012-08-13, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by FortySe7en

222 players in a base battle isn't massive? Interesting. When is the last time you took 222 people and put them in the same room with guns.

Think about that.

222 on the same continent wouldent be much becasue there are several bases where the battle could occur. But the answer to this was that there are a limit of 2000 per continent and not server.

Scotsh · 2012-08-13, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by Ivam Akorahil

your wrong its 6000 per server, 2000 per continent

the cap for activ players per server is 6000 which is probably going to happen easily, because active players does not mean the amount of people who have chars on servers

They never said anything about a pop limit of 6000 players per server. I highly doubt it if you compare it with other MMO games.

also the 2000 per continent/6000 per server is the guaranteed minimum soe assured
if the tech goes with it they might allow more

They said, the target and estimate 2000 players per continent, they never promised. Beta will tell what is possible.

where the hell do you people get your numbers from ? :V

Where do you get your numbers from?

Realmofdarkness · 2012-08-13, 04:28 AM

Originally Posted by Ivam Akorahil

there can easily be 30000 people having chars on one server but only 6000 of them can play at the same time

So if there is 30k accounts but only 6000 can play. will people have to wait until they get in then? a que system?

FortySe7en · 2012-08-13, 04:33 AM

Originally Posted by Realmofdarkness

222 on the same continent wouldent be much becasue there are several bases where the battle could occur. But the answer to this was that there are a limit of 2000 per continent and not server.

No. Because people don't spread to random locations. They go to hotspots. Most likely most of those 222 people would be in the same spot.

Joomba · 2012-08-13, 04:34 AM

Not everyone who has an account will be on at the same time. People do things other than play video games.

Imagine a 6000 person server: over time, players will quit. Eventually, the server will be "full" but have almost nobody available to play.

Sunrock · 2012-08-13, 04:37 AM

Just like to point out that all numbers in this thread is pulled out of a hat. No one at SOE have came out and sand that the servers can only handle X players at the time. In fact I don't think anyone at SOE is really sure about how many the servers can hold yet. That is something they have to test in the beta.

However I think it's a safe bet to assume that the servers can hold 6k players per continent at the same time. 18000 players logged into the servers at the same time that is.

But the how many the server can handle fighting over one fort is allot more interesting. And I hope we can see 500 or so. But if SOE wants most of there players to be able to play on max graphic settings while doing that... maybe only around 200.

Scotsh · 2012-08-13, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Realmofdarkness

So if there is 30k accounts but only 6000 can play. will people have to wait until they get in then? a que system?

Most likely, thats how most MMO games do it. You still have the chance to go to a less populated server, although you will be playing a different char there.

Choosing the right server at the begin of a MMO is a difficult task. On day 1 you cant know which server will be over- or underpopulated. Later choosing a low-pop server might be a bad idea because if the total amount of players drops over the next months your server might die. Choosing a high-pop server may lead to waiting queues, which (if the total amount of players grows) may be there for a long time.

Sunrock · 2012-08-13, 04:42 AM

Originally Posted by Joomba

Not everyone who has an account will be on at the same time. People do things other than play video games.

Imagine a 6000 person server: over time, players will quit. Eventually, the server will be "full" but have almost nobody available to play.

Well if they open up 5000 servers on day one they will have a problem filling any of them. But if they have only open a few servers they can avoid most of server population problems over time.

Scotsh · 2012-08-13, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by Sunrock

Just like to point out that all numbers in this thread is pulled out of a hat. No one at SOE have came out and sand that the servers can only handle X players at the time. In fact I don't think anyone at SOE is really sure about how many the servers can hold yet. That is something they have to test in the beta.

True, except that SOE themselves actually brought the 2000 players per continent into the discussion

However I think it's a safe bet to assume that the servers can hold 6k players per continent at the same time. 18000 players logged into the servers at the same time that is.

Lol, now you are making numbers up. Which MMO in existence can handle that?
WoW servers got cap between 4k and 8k of users online at the same time. And those people are not on one actual server, but different servers (instance servers, PvP servers and continent servers)

Harasus · 2012-08-13, 04:55 AM

Originally Posted by Realmofdarkness

was just thinking. 2000 players (accounts) on one sever. one server will have 3 continents. if players fancy all continents equal then it will be 2000/3 = 666 players per continent. and then maybe not everybody is playing at the same time. hard to estimate but lets say only 1/3 play at the time. then we are down to 222 players per continent. not that massive?? or am I thinking wrong here?

I have played medieval FPS games with 250 players on the server at the same time, and that is an indie game which is not even created to have that many players at the same time.

If SOE will have a limit of 666/continent, then that is very silly and I can continue playing previously mentioned game some more. I have heard that there will be 3 continents/server, and each server can hold 6 000 players. Therefore, 2 000 players/continent. That sounds a lot more reasonable, and I am willing to believe that.

So, yes, you are thinking very wrong here.

Sunrock · 2012-08-13, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by Scotsh

True, except that SOE themselves actually brought the 2000 players per continent into the discussion

Lol, now you are making numbers up. Which MMO in existence can handle that?
WoW servers got cap between 4k and 8k of users online at the same time. And those people are not on one actual server, but different servers (instance servers, PvP servers and continent servers)

All MMOs use a cluster of servers and I expect they do the same with Planetside using just one physical server for any game that have over 60 players online is stupid, at least if you want any fancy graphic in the game.

But with the network tech that exist today I think that is possible to fit in 6k players on a 8km x 8km map.