Infiltrators Useless Now?

DHoff · 2012-11-09, 03:15 PM

Without shotguns, they are going to be pretty useless. Sniping isn't helpful in the long run to capturing a continent and unlike PS1, hacking is way less useful.

Maybe the satchel charges that they intended to give them will make infiltrators useful again?

I was a full time infiltrator/MAX in PS1, but they are making that hard to do in PS2 and still be useful.

VaderShake · 2012-11-09, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by DHoff

Without shotguns, they are going to be pretty useless. Sniping isn't helpful in the long run to capturing a continent and unlike PS1, hacking is way less useful.

Maybe the satchel charges that they intended to give them will make infiltrators useful again?

I was a full time infiltrator/MAX in PS1, but they are making that hard to do in PS2 and still be useful.

I don't know man, last Friday I wiped 25 people off a hill in under 5 minutes from 250+ meters which let the 20+ guys on my team push over that hill into a base much faster and with less casualties.......I think that was pretty useful helping capture that territory...

The Infiltrator is a tool, you just need to figure out the right applicaiton to get the job done.

Timealude · 2012-11-09, 04:12 PM

Ifniltrator is still pretty good, my only concern is with close range, as far as the beamer goes it still find it hard to defend myself with it at close range (or course I might have just not had enough practice with it.) The scout rifle..Im still not sure what they are classifying it as because from what i know a scout rifle is still just another sniper rifle....So from what I can see they arent making Infiltrators very viable close range and seem to be shoehorning it into a long range to medium range engagement only as far as VS weapons go. One of my outfit member suggested an SMG which I agree with them having if they are taking our shotguns away. Otherwise, I feel like they could just be asking us to be snipers only with no point of hacking except for defense purposes.

xuur · 2012-11-09, 04:30 PM

cant really say useless. INF didnt have shotguns all that long ago and were (and from what I can tell, still are) quite effective in certain roles.

EVILPIG · 2012-11-09, 05:21 PM

I would not call Infiltrators useless. Either way, Infil + Shotgun is more overpowered than Infil - Shotgun is underpowered. It would be great to expand on what they can do and that is coming.

DHoff · 2012-11-09, 06:00 PM

For sheer killing power, infiltrators are fine as it stands. The problem is that if you are trying to win control of a base, the sniper is less useful than any of the other classes going in for CQB in the bases.

In PS1, the "sniper" class could switch to a backup Lasher/Shotgun/Thumper/Rocklet/etc.

Either Shotguns need to come back, SMGs need to be put in, or the melee booster needs to be put in.

moosepoop · 2012-11-09, 06:04 PM

give sniper rifles red dot sight. thats ur close range weapon.

Timealude · 2012-11-09, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by moosepoop

give sniper rifles red dot sight. thats ur close range weapon.

they nerfed the hip fire on the semi auto sniper rifles.

ringring · 2012-11-09, 06:23 PM

Infil should not be CQB class. Giving them shotgun was the wrong direction.
Give them stuff to be sneaky at not to try to rack up kills.

Beerbeer · 2012-11-09, 07:23 PM

This is one class I haven't fully tried out yet, other than sniping.

Lol, I remember I would suit up as an infiltrator and torment people with those remote detonated explosives in ps1 when I got bored. Lol, fun times.

Figment · 2012-11-09, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by DHoff

Without shotguns, they are going to be pretty useless. Sniping isn't helpful in the long run to capturing a continent and unlike PS1, hacking is way less useful.

Maybe the satchel charges that they intended to give them will make infiltrators useful again?

I was a full time infiltrator/MAX in PS1, but they are making that hard to do in PS2 and still be useful.

Full. Time. Cloak.

Screw shotguns. Give me explosives, pistols for defense, gen shield passing and covert (?) hacking. Shotguns? Pah.

For the record, I still hope they will make snipers their own suit/class at some point because as someone put it on the PS2 forums: Snipefils are like ninjas with longbows. It doesn't make sense.

Ghoest9 · 2012-11-09, 07:45 PM

When did they remove shotguns?

xuur · 2012-11-09, 07:51 PM

last patch I think

bullet · 2012-11-09, 08:10 PM

Well thats disappointing. I love the infil in this game but forcing me to carry a sniper rifle while I'm infiltrating seems counter intuitive. Atleast let me switch to a suit where I can stay cloaked but I lose my main weapon. I thought this was the initial idea with the infiltrator but we have yet to see any developments on this.

I've found myself in numerous situations where I really wish I had access to boomers/C4, more abilities to sabotage enemy vehicles, and/or create some distraction to draw enemy soldiers away from the front lines.

Figment · 2012-11-09, 08:37 PM

I believe they did suggest at the PS1 full time infil returning post-launch when asked why the stalker suit was removed from the options. *fingers crossed*