What is a 4th Empire Player?

JumpJetter · 2012-12-13, 12:10 AM

Been hearing this term tossed around. What is it? Thanks in advance.

Brusi · 2012-12-13, 12:31 AM

A player who plays for the winning team, whomever that may be at the moment.

Bocheezu · 2012-12-13, 12:33 AM

A faction hopper that has no faction loyalty. They constantly switch to whatever faction is "winning." It causes a snowball effect where the faction that is slightly winning starts to gain more population and just steamrolls everybody. This issue has come about because there's no timer to switch factions now; compare this to PS1 where you had to wait several hours after a faction switch in order to switch again.

JumpJetter · 2012-12-13, 12:43 AM

Yeah, now I understand why people complain about multiple chars per server. Death to all Faction hoppers!

RSphil · 2012-12-13, 12:54 AM

happens in every game where you have multiple char's on the same server. very bad idea putting this in. more character slots would be nice but not same server.

Jaged · 2012-12-13, 01:23 AM

Wait I heard you could have multiple characters on the same server now, but also on different factions? That's just a terrible idea.

Salad Snake · 2012-12-13, 01:43 AM

Wait, you can do that now? They should have just added in server character migration for station cash.

I guess at least I can start a new character on Connery where I have my VS but all my friends play TR...

Figment · 2012-12-13, 05:23 AM

Originally Posted by RSphil

happens in every game where you have multiple char's on the same server. very bad idea putting this in. more character slots would be nice but not same server.

Due to server mergers coming, they'll have to.

That's exactly why I stated they should have had overcapacity of up to what, 30,000 players per server - even if the load was distributed over different servers (just figure out an universal, external database that can pull characters to different servers and pretend it is one big server while in fact it's clustered). >.>

Sure, at first there'd be multi-Amerish, etc. But that's a temporary thing. Meanwhile you'd guarantee server pop etc.

Storn · 2012-12-13, 12:18 PM

I also think this is a bad idea. In WWII online side flippers ruined each campaign chamging to the side that was winning (snowball in effect). A one hour timer at least should be in place.

xuur · 2012-12-13, 12:29 PM

Im going to have to go with the consensus here as to it being a bad idea at the core. frankly, I find it hard to come up with any sort of reasoning for more than a single character per server. with no dedicated class restriction, no transfer of "funds" or really even a different look to the avatars, the only reasoning behind it is to dodge from either a name/bad reputation or faction jumping.

none of which is reason enough (IMHO) to allow it.

Alareth · 2012-12-13, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Salad Snake

I guess at least I can start a new character on Connery where I have my VS but all my friends play TR...

If they play TR they aren't really your friends

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VaderShake · 2012-12-13, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by JumpJetter

Been hearing this term tossed around. What is it? Thanks in advance.

I thought you were referring to Smed talking about introducing a 4th faction invasion that the NC,VS, & TR would all have to battle with.

Faction jumpers I would call "Faction 0" because that is all they contribute to PS2....

Mox · 2012-12-13, 03:42 PM

There is no honor in playing more than one faction per server. Everybody who do it should be banned.

Edit: by the way there is no honor in playing something else than TR but what can we do... TR need something to kill.

Tooterfish · 2012-12-13, 03:46 PM

A lot of things continue to be changed per community input. Who was out of touch enough to request this?

SGTHACK · 2012-12-13, 04:08 PM

I play the three different factions on three different servers. I see nothing wrong with this. I have fun with each. I never look to play one because it is winning. I play for the epic battles each server can produce. It isn't fun for me to be with a steam roller. I love the even fights.