When they add Buggies.....

MrBloodworth · 2012-12-13, 12:23 PM

What the hell will they do?

I mean, they made MBT two mans. Will buggies have the equivalent power of a MBT? Will the marauder still be a three man, as it should be?

I think they really painted themselves in a corner with MBT's being a two man gig.

They could make them solo... I suppose.

Figment · 2012-12-13, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

What the hell will they do?

I mean, they made MBT two mans. Will buggies have the equivalent power of a MBT? Will the marauder still be a three man, as it should be?

I think they really painted themselves in a corner with MBT's being a two man gig.

They could make them solo... I suppose.

Like ATVs, but bigger! :O

Well they could be a Skygu... oh no.

They could have a gunner with morta... oh wait.

They could have a gunner with high expl... oh never mind.

They could float over wa... ehm...

They could have speed like the Ligh... ehr...

Yeah. Why did I want niche vehicles again when they talked about this in alpha?

ZaiRoX · 2012-12-13, 12:32 PM

Perhaps prevent lockon weapons from working on them and give them some resistance to mines.

Or simply give them some unique weapons. Like a long range javelin launcher to combat sniping tanks.

SpottyGekko · 2012-12-13, 12:34 PM

Well, I'd imagine that unless the devs come up with some novel uses for buggies, they'll be as popular (and useful) as the current Skyguards...

MrBloodworth · 2012-12-13, 12:39 PM

I'm not even sure where we will drive them, seeing as 70% of every continent is some sort of EQ2 like hallway system in terrain form, that has the congestion of the NJ turnpike.

Assist · 2012-12-13, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by MrBloodworth

What the hell will they do?

I mean, they made MBT two mans. Will buggies have the equivalent power of a MBT? Will the marauder still be a three man, as it should be?

I think they really painted themselves in a corner with MBT's being a two man gig.

They could make them solo... I suppose.

2x the suspension of a flash w/ better handling, 3 seat w/ open cage(driver, turret, back seat), 1 turret on top w/ good AA/AV, speed of a sunderer, and then they could do a lot with certs.

belch · 2012-12-13, 12:55 PM

I'd say it should be faster than a Sunderer...as it'd be toting a lot less weight around. Of course, the trade off is in the amount of armor on it, as it'd basically be a jeep style transport. It should afford more small arms protection than a Flash, but any high damage vehicle mounted weapon should probably cripple it. Of course, this is where the speed and handling of the thing would give it it's own niche...capable of delivering 3-4 troopers to an objective quickly and without drawing too much attention.

ShadetheDruid · 2012-12-13, 12:58 PM

I just want buggies so I don't have to use that Flash deathtrap ever again, anything else is a bonus.

SGOniell · 2012-12-13, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by Assist

2x the suspension of a flash w/ better handling, 3 seat w/ open cage(driver, turret, back seat), 1 turret on top w/ good AA/AV, speed of a sunderer, and then they could do a lot with certs.

I like it. I'd want them slightly faster than a Sunderer though.

EvilNinjadude · 2012-12-13, 01:06 PM

Just basically a Bigger Better Flash, without the perk of being vulnerable to ANY PROJECTILE that your enemies can put into the air, and being as inconspicuous as Circus on a Graveyard.

I think they should really make STEALTH an actual thing for the flash, and not just radar jamming voodoo, but actual stealth. Silence, camouflage, the whole lot.

Electrofreak · 2012-12-13, 02:22 PM

Give them good acceleration and make them freakin' mountain goats. They'll be useful for getting over terrain that you'd be crazy to try to take a Lightning through. Give them a weapon with decent range so they can try to avoid getting nuked by AV weapons.

Dragonskin · 2012-12-13, 02:38 PM

Combining ideas from the thread here. What about the buggie being a 4 seat vehicle making it bigger than a quad, but make it streamlined and give it a long duration cloak that has a relatively high cool down and radar stealth. Make it weaponless, but give it defensive abilities like maybe a AOE EMP or Concussion effect... and give it the ability to traverse mountains..and a gate diffuser. Light armor, but higher than a quad.

Turn it into more of a tactical insertion vehicle.. designed to get you to a specific objective with a small group relatively unseen. I don't know, just throwing out ideas here.. I think that would be cool. If not for a buggie then they need to make this vehicle and call it something else.

SGOniell · 2012-12-13, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dragonskin

Combining ideas from the thread here. What about the buggie being a 4 seat vehicle making it bigger than a quad, but make it streamlined and give it a long duration cloak that has a relatively high cool down and radar stealth. Make it weaponless, but give it defensive abilities like maybe a AOE EMP or Concussion effect... and give it the ability to traverse mountains..and a gate diffuser. Light armor, but higher than a quad.

Turn it into more of a tactical insertion vehicle.. designed to get you to a specific objective with a small group relatively unseen. I don't know, just throwing out ideas here.. I think that would be cool. If not for a buggie then they need to make this vehicle and call it something else.

Not really fond of the combination. My thoughts are just something like this guy

or perhaps this guy

ShadetheDruid · 2012-12-13, 02:49 PM

The advantage of the cert/slot system is they could logically do many options, they'd just have to have the options there for people to customise their buggies the way they want.

Lonehunter · 2012-12-13, 02:51 PM

I was also curious as to what role they would actually fill. In PS1 they had a driver and a gunner, but so did main battle tanks. So if they make it a 1 man vehicle what separates it from the others? Fast attack belongs to Lightning, anti air belongs to lightning. More survivability and hitting power belongs to the MBTs.

SO what if they require 2 people to run it? Then no matter what it creates a balance issue because the other more powerful vehicles require only 1 person, and you just can't turn buggies into the most powerful vehicle on the field....