Afterburner nerf.

Meecrob · 2012-12-16, 06:11 AM

As may be known im an advent reaver pilot. I have noticed that, even though it sais nothing about it in the patchnotes, the reaver's afterburner has been severely nerfed in the patch (from 300 to 214 in half a second, seriously?)

Now i've heard that this nerf was a mistake, but im not 2 sure. Can anyone enlighten me?

I'm asking because the reaver is just a joke in dogfights now. When you get picked out you feel like a sick animal of a herd, not being able to do anything vs your inpending doom.

Necronile · 2012-12-16, 06:54 AM

Well the reaver supposed to be the slowest of aircraft in the game,
so thats why they nerfed it a bit.

Meecrob · 2012-12-16, 07:28 AM

Originally Posted by Necronile

Well the reaver supposed to be the slowest of aircraft in the game,
so thats why they nerfed it a bit.

Well agreed, but "nerfed it a bit." is a understatement. The deceleration after using it atm is just unrealistic. Like i stated in the previous post 300kph to 214 in half a second. Even if u use your brakes you wont get that from any other speed.

I agree, and have seen all the posts about the reavers afterburner being OP because if you used it correctly you could sustain around 300 kph, but i guess there are more sutble ways to nerf it than just applying brakes after afterburner usage. (like less afterburner speed, less fuel etc etc.) the reaver just doesnt feel right now, and this saddens me, because it was a dream before.

Tooterfish · 2012-12-16, 09:15 AM

Reavers are terrible, and you're right. Once you're picked, you're screwed. There is no running away in a Reaver and good Mosquito pilots are aware of this. Being an interceptor ESF for the NC is a waste of certs, unless you're confident your opponents have a far inferior specced ESF. If you're good, you can probably take one on, but two requires maneuverability, which we clearly don't have, and you'll be chasing one into the sunset while the other uses you for target practice.

Redshift · 2012-12-16, 09:23 AM

The reavers burners were clearly wrong from the get go, it was probably just a bug and so not mentioned.
The speed they infered decayed so slowly that they were almost charged before you were back to normal speed, the mossie and scythe both have speed decay like the reaver does now

Pella · 2012-12-16, 09:25 AM

What Redshift said.

Its not a nerf. Its Balance adjustment.

Meecrob · 2012-12-16, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Redshift

The reavers burners were clearly wrong from the get go, it was probably just a bug and so not mentioned.
The speed they infered decayed so slowly that they were almost charged before you were back to normal speed, the mossie and scythe both have speed decay like the reaver does now

Like i have stated before, i was aware of this. I am also not debating if the reaver needed a nerf. I am just saying the current nerf seems a bit harsh. I also feel that if it was not intended it took them a hell of a long time to fix it.

So what i'de like is the speed to decay a little slower than it does now.

What Redshift said.

Its not a nerf. Its Balance adjustment.

A Nerf just means something is weakend. The reavers afterburner got weakend so it is a nerf. Any "Balance adjustment" involving weakening something is a nerf.

Hamma · 2012-12-16, 11:04 AM

Underslung grenades were stealth nerfed also. So it seems a few things were missed in this patch.

EVILoHOMER · 2012-12-16, 11:05 AM

lol, yeh as was how vehicles cannot go up hills anymore.

GLaDOS · 2012-12-16, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Underslung grenades were stealth nerfed also. So it seems a few things were missed in this patch.

Were they really? That would explain a lot. I thought it was just more people using buffed flak armor, but it didn't really seem to add up.

EVILoHOMER · 2012-12-16, 11:09 AM

They should remove nades altogether, they're the most retarded thing in modern FPS games. Like Nades aren't made to be thrown at range, they're there to clear small spaces and soldiers do not over arm throw them at each other in real life.

All that Nades do in Planetside 2 is make indoor fights turn into Operation Metro, it wasn't fun back in 2011 and it isn't now.

Hamma · 2012-12-16, 11:09 AM

Seems a minimum range of some sort was added.

Sorry back on topic. Derailed the thread. :P

EVILoHOMER · 2012-12-16, 11:21 AM

Funny because I jumped in to see this, firstly there is no one playing, Miller is pretty dead compared to what it was a week or two ago. Amerish is meant to be where most TR are and hardly any one there........

Secondly my afterburner on the Mosq goes from full speed to like 230 in a second..... I don't see any difference between that and the Reaver.

Thirdy a Reaver tailed me, it's pretty hard to counter attack in this game because the flight model makes it so easy to react to everything the person you're watching is doing. 2 seconds of fire from his chain gun and I died....... never even had time to react.

Nothing wrong with the Reaver.

The Messenger · 2012-12-16, 07:51 PM

The reaver is supposed to have the best AB in the game, it has the highest speed at full burn. Weather or not removing the bleed off was a fix or bug has yet to be confirmed. But even with level 3 racer chassis, a stock mossie is as fast as my reaver. So if the same mossie has level 3 dogfighting, it can outperform scythes and reavers on two fronts now? While I understand the mossie is supposed to be fastest in game, this should not be after dumping 700 certs into an upgrade. Level 3 racer also no longer gives any extra benefit to the AB so outrunning anything right now is not possible.

Any ESF that maxes their chassis should outperform a stock ESF. Otherwise all three factions would only want to cert into the one that is unique to their own faction.

The reaver is definately broke with the latest update. Speed is nill, smallest magazine for the rotary but highest COF. Biggest hitbox and it's already been confirmed all ESF's have the same HP's.

The flare system alone shows the reaver is at a serious disadvantage.
scythe & mossie: 100/200/500/1000
reaver: 100/500/1000/1000

Um what? So we can't use flares or outmanuever A2A; what is SOE thinking?

Meecrob · 2012-12-17, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Messenger

The reaver is supposed to have the best AB in the game, it has the highest speed at full burn. Weather or not removing the bleed off was a fix or bug has yet to be confirmed. But even with level 3 racer chassis, a stock mossie is as fast as my reaver. So if the same mossie has level 3 dogfighting, it can outperform scythes and reavers on two fronts now? While I understand the mossie is supposed to be fastest in game, this should not be after dumping 700 certs into an upgrade. Level 3 racer also no longer gives any extra benefit to the AB so outrunning anything right now is not possible.

Any ESF that maxes their chassis should outperform a stock ESF. Otherwise all three factions would only want to cert into the one that is unique to their own faction.

The reaver is definately broke with the latest update. Speed is nill, smallest magazine for the rotary but highest COF. Biggest hitbox and it's already been confirmed all ESF's have the same HP's.

The flare system alone shows the reaver is at a serious disadvantage.
scythe & mossie: 100/200/500/1000
reaver: 100/500/1000/1000

Um what? So we can't use flares or outmanuever A2A; what is SOE thinking?

Amen brother, i think the problem is that SOE is not thinking. They are just reacting to all the complaints by presumably mossie pilots. Please SOE don't make the same mistakes that ruined one of your other games (jedi balance in SW: Galaxies) by just listening to the complaining masses whilst ruining everything.