NC weapons finally hit hard

boogy · 2012-12-20, 02:58 PM

I've noticed lately that NC weapons are hitting hard. I'm getting insta-gibbed by a lot of their guns now. I was one of the biggest proponents for an NC buff and I think whatever happened they got it. I'm not sure if you NC guys feel it on your end but I sure feel your bullets now. TR guns, not a fan of the recent nerf.

Nolerhn · 2012-12-20, 03:54 PM

I dunno if they 'finally' hit hard or not, but I will say I've always FEARED running into NC at close quarters (even in PS1). I know they have longer range weapons, but when some of your faction specific weapons are jackhammers and scatter MAX's, I generally panic when I run into any yellow and blue guy around a corner lol.

KaskaMatej · 2012-12-20, 05:02 PM

Did I miss any NC weapons buff? Last I checked, they haven't changed their weapons significantly.

Maybe OP just started to aim?

Beerbeer · 2012-12-20, 05:06 PM

I'll take the carv over any nc weapon any day of the week. Not that I use them much anymore, but the carv just owns. I actually got some attachments on mine finally, reflex sight and laser sight. The thing is a beast.

WarbirdTD · 2012-12-20, 07:05 PM

The majority of NC weapons have been superb since launch, the 1 possible exception being the Gauss Rifle (without attachments). Everything else was balanced extremely well. However, there are is a vocal group amongst the NC that are COMPLETELY AWFUL PLAYERS and are of the opinion that their guns should be better in any circumstance at any range. You could give them instagib CQC weapons, yet they would still complain. The devs MUST NOT listen to these morons if they wish to keep a balanced game. Hell, talk to some of the good or even decent NC players. I'm sure they'll tell you the best guns in their arsenal (AF-19, GD-7F, GR-22S, Gauss SAW, EM6, Anchor, Hacksaw MAX) and how to use them.

Beerbeer · 2012-12-20, 07:11 PM

Well, there are an equal amount of morons who haven't played both empires beyond br10.

boogy · 2012-12-20, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by KaskaMatej

Did I miss any NC weapons buff? Last I checked, they haven't changed their weapons significantly.

Maybe OP just started to aim?

No I didn't just start to aim. I don't play NC. My observation is from fighting NC. They're a lot tougher now. Still not as tough as VS, but close. The change was in the patch where they also nerfed the TR. It could be a combo of my weapons being nerfed and them being buffed. Some of their weapons I believe, the Gauss weapons had a buff.

I've also given up on the TR heavy. It just can't hang anymore against the VS infantry. Even with the new Bull LMG (I have a sneaking suspicion it was stealth nerfed) no longer does it for me.

I go engineer with the Jaguar and Tank Mines. Does a better job than the Heavy at everything other than anti-air. The heavy rocket launchers are a joke.

Bags · 2012-12-20, 07:16 PM

I've always found VS / Tr weapons to be superior because of ease of use tbh.

boogy · 2012-12-20, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by WarbirdTD

I'm sure they'll tell you the best guns in their arsenal (AF-19, GD-7F, GR-22S, Gauss SAW, EM6, Anchor, Hacksaw MAX) and how to use them.

Yeah I felt that all they needed to do was buff the gauss saw and call it a day. The EM6 and AF-19 destroy me all the time. Their Max is just plain OP and needs a range or damage nerf.

ChipMHazard · 2012-12-20, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bags

I've always found VS / Tr weapons to be superior because of ease of use tbh.

That and a faster rate of fire that can really f... up an enemies day with the aim jerking caused by getting hit.

Regarding NC weapons suddenly starting to hit harder. Unless they a actually come out and announce a buff I'm going to have to pass it off you simply feeling like they've been buffed. Might just be that you've been going up against some more skilled NC, they really are deadly use you learn to use them.

I guess it is possible that they performed a ninja buff, but I doubt they would do it without announcing it.

The Messenger · 2012-12-20, 07:30 PM

Lately, it does feel like some of the weapons are hitting harder but this could be improvments over the netcode. Most of the time when people are instagibbed, it's due to latency; not the weapons. The damge on client side is about half a second behind what the information the server is getting. So when a player feels like they were instagibbed, the person that shot them actually had to fire half a mag or more. This is why most people think other faction weapons are more powerful. This is also the reason why people see themselves getting killed when they "just" make it around a corner.

And FYI, the jackhammer is still crap, the mauler has better stats. Not that I'm complaining, I love the mauler with a scope and slugs. Due to the lag, I can put two shots into people before they respond. And if that doesn't kill them, the third shot will.

boogy · 2012-12-20, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by ChipMHazard

I guess it is possible that they performed a ninja buff, but I doubt they would do it without announcing it.

The buff was in the update patch notes. The projectile speed was increased on the Gauss and Gauss S. They've also been doing ninja nerfs (not sure about buffs) as seen from the data extracted from some game files.

Beerbeer · 2012-12-20, 07:45 PM

I just read on the main forums the nc weapons got a recoil buff.

Haven't tested it myself yet, but for anyone who played nc, this was long overdue IMO. It's funny how things we perceive sometimes proves true, even without data.

boogy · 2012-12-20, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Beerbeer

I just read on the main forums the nc weapons got a recoil buff.

Haven't tested it myself yet, but for anyone who played nc, this was long overdue IMO. It's funny how things we perceive sometimes proves true, even without data.

Dying a lot more and watch your k/d plummet are pretty good signs something is going on.

ChipMHazard · 2012-12-20, 08:00 PM

I haven't seen any recent, within last few days, patches that changed anything regarding weapons.