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Old 2013-03-13, 08:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #1
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Wraith-Like Cert for ESF's


So I was looking at a wraith cert thread up here and suddenly it hit me: Well, why don't they have this for ESF's? I know they have the Stealth cert, but that's only for lock-ons. In mordern days, The F-22 Raptor doesn't show up on radar until it's too late. So what's stopping the people in the future to adding the cloaking to their ESF's? It makes perfect sense, but to prevent it from being too "O.P." in the game, have the secondary weapon removed (such as Breaker Rocket Pods on the Reaver). To me, this makes perfect sense to do. Are they already working on this? Have they thought about this? Tell me your thoughts fellow auraxians!
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Old 2013-03-13, 08:33 AM   [Ignore Me] #2
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My first thought is... You've never experienced the Phantasm 1.0 with 12mm pilot controlled gun.



And that was a sluggish transport aircraft.
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Old 2013-03-13, 08:39 AM   [Ignore Me] #3
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Old 2013-03-13, 09:14 AM   [Ignore Me] #4
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Just for the record, before the gun was stripped from the Phantasm, it became an ultimate predator on infantry, where the four transport seats wern't used, but the pilot would go out and whore unsuspecting infantry in the field who had no chance of doing anything about it.

How the cloaked troop insertion aircraft was used (after the gun had been stripped). >.>

1. Basically as a tool for groups or individuals to gank other individuals (and vehicles like BFRs in particular) from behind.
2. As an insertion aircraft as it was meant (competing with Sunderer, Deliverer variants and Galaxy for transport job)
3. Dropping snipers in good positions.
4. Well, I used it to topple over landed Galaxies and general scouting and clearing some mines before getting into a base without using up any EMPs and bypassing any ground defenses.


Now think of how a fighter with stealth capacity and both A2A, bailing and A2G capacity would be used.

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Old 2013-03-13, 09:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #5
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In short, "OH, HELL NO!" Secondary weapon removed, or not... Silly OP idea.
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Old 2013-03-13, 09:26 AM   [Ignore Me] #6
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Yep would be seriously broken. You get enough complaint about Rocket Pods as it is. Even if the Wraith module for ESF took up the secondary weapon slot it would probably still be too good. But hey if SOE thinks they can sell it for 700 SC wouldn't be surprised if it gets added someday.
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Old 2013-03-13, 09:32 AM   [Ignore Me] #7
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This would be a terrible idea.

The only reason it was ok for the old Wraith was that the old Wrath was a horrible weapon itself.

Im expecting a lot of whining about the new Wraith being used as a weapon.
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Old 2013-03-13, 10:45 AM   [Ignore Me] #8
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Originally Posted by Ghoest9 View Post
This would be a terrible idea.

The only reason it was ok for the old Wraith was that the old Wrath was a horrible weapon itself.

Im expecting a lot of whining about the new Wraith being used as a weapon.
the old wraith wasnt even a weapon lol just a transport.
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Old 2013-03-13, 10:57 AM   [Ignore Me] #9
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The last thing I need are more ESF ghost capping behind enemy lines...
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Old 2013-03-13, 10:59 AM   [Ignore Me] #10
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Originally Posted by Figment View Post
My first thought is... You've never experienced the Phantasm 1.0 with 12mm pilot controlled gun.



And that was a sluggish transport aircraft.
Oh the rage.

Just say no to cloaked ESF's, also please stop referring to modern day real life tech. Just because it sounds cool does not make it fun gameplay remember there are 3 sides to consider not just yourself.
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Old 2013-03-13, 11:08 AM   [Ignore Me] #11
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Originally Posted by Timealude View Post
the old wraith wasnt even a weapon lol just a transport.
Not true! You could ram people what, 25 times to kill them (if you repaired in between ) OR you could keep driving into vehicles till they would be launched across the universe!
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Old 2013-03-13, 11:13 AM   [Ignore Me] #12
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Originally Posted by Figment View Post
My first thought is... You've never experienced the Phantasm 1.0 with 12mm pilot controlled gun.



And that was a sluggish transport aircraft.
Originally Posted by Figment View Post
Not true! You could ram people what, 25 times to kill them (if you repaired in between ) OR you could keep driving into vehicles till they would be launched across the universe!
Don't forget the boot full of boomers
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Old 2013-03-13, 11:47 AM   [Ignore Me] #13
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Don't forget the boot full of boomers
That counts as transport.
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Old 2013-03-13, 12:23 PM   [Ignore Me] #14
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No thank you. I wouldn't want to be flying my Mossie to suddenly have Klingon ships decloak around me. Wouldn't even have time to yell "Arm photon torpedoes!"
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Old 2013-03-13, 12:40 PM   [Ignore Me] #15
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Originally Posted by ChipMHazard View Post
No thank you. I wouldn't want to be flying my Mossie to suddenly have Klingon ships decloak around me. Wouldn't even have time to yell "Arm photon torpedoes!"
It's worse than that, it's physics Jim.
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