News: Cert Payout Today

EVILPIG · 2013-04-10, 03:58 PM

Giving the massive fight on the OF, I'm shocked it's not on here. Today's patch paid out certs to those who bought duplicate weapons before they became account wide unlocks. There is a huge debate over this, as the award is quite significant for some. Anyone here get their certs today?

Update via Higby:

Hey all -

I wanted to pop in quickly to talk about today's cert point grant. As you know, a couple weeks ago we implemented account-wide SC unlocks which made any item that was common pool available to any character on your account, and any faction specific items available to all characters of that faction on your account. At the time we promised that we would be looking into ways to compensate players who had purchased the same items on more than one character. Today's cert grant was the resolution of that promised compensation. The grant logic worked as follows:

For every SC that you spent buying an identical item, which would now be available as an account wide unlock on multiple characters, we gave 2 cert points.

For example, if you have two TR characters and bought MAX composite armor's on them both, you would have spent 1000 SC on a duplicated item on your account, and we will have granted your characters 2000 certs this morning.

Players who did not purchase the same item on multiple characters on the same account should not have been eligible for these cert grants, although some players are reporting that they did. We are investigating why, but right now it is our mistake and we won't be 'confiscating' or rolling back characters which received certs.

We are looking into reports of players who have purchased items that should have been flagged as account wide but did not receive cert grants, these seem to be for multiple purchases of common-pool vehicle weapons which were not captured as part of the database query we ran.

Additionally, if you purchased an individual item, and later a bundle that contained that individual item, we granted cert points at the same rate for the price of the items purchased from that bundle - this was an error in the logic that was used to collect the cert grants, so those of you who benefitted from this get an extra bonus.

We will be reevaluating if future changes to the account-wide unlocks will include a retroactive cert grant, at this point we are uncertain if we will continue to adhere to this policy; so fair warning to those of you who might want to create 5 characters and buy a ton of repeated stuff on them - it is not certain that this type of grant will ever occur again.

I hope this answers some of the questions as to what is happening with the grant today.

Thanks!

http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/i...grants.114869/

bpostal · 2013-04-10, 04:15 PM

Yeah, I noticed certs show up. Got a good number of 'em too, not sure how they calculated the return.

CraazyCanuck · 2013-04-10, 04:38 PM

Now if we could get the option to for a reset recertification I would be one happy camper. Put those thousandd of certs I wasted on weapons etc and put them to better use.

Glad those that double/triple dipped purchases are getting a refund.

Rolfski · 2013-04-10, 04:57 PM

3400 certs on all my three characters for duplicated weapons I supposedly bought. Now I won't mind them making a mistake in my favor but it would have been wiser of them to refund it in SC to eliminate of any suspicion of PS2 being P2W.

Chewy · 2013-04-10, 05:32 PM

Iv read the same posts on the PS2 forums and seen reports of people getting 10s of thousands of certs. Here's a link to one of the biggest posts.
http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/i...update.114834/

If this is real then WTF was SOE thinking? I played for 175 hours to get 5k certs. That shit doesn't come easy for a near pure support player. Refund SC and be done with it. Giving out thousands of certs for paid SC damn near makes PS2 a PTW game!

Might as well make that on option in the store, buy cert packs for 500SC a pop (joke. I do NOT want this). Bullshit I say and it needs a roll back. Hundreds of hours worth in certs just for a few SC weapons. Bullshit

EVILPIG · 2013-04-10, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Chewy

Iv read the same posts on the PS2 forums and seen reports of people getting 10s of thousands of certs. Here's a link to one of the biggest posts.
http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/i...update.114834/

If this is real then WTF was SOE thinking? I played for 175 hours to get 5k certs. That shit doesn't come easy for a near pure support player. Refund SC and be done with it. Giving out thousands of certs for paid SC damn near makes PS2 a PTW game!

Might as well make that on option in the store, buy cert packs for 500SC a pop (joke. I do NOT want this). Bullshit I say and it needs a roll back. Hundreds of hours worth in certs just for a few SC weapons. Bullshit

It doesn't make the game Pay to Win. Maybe Paid to Win.

Either way, it's not going to happen again and well, they are giving you something worthless in the real world for actual money you spent. I'm sure many would prefer to get some money back, but that isn't going to happen.

Hamma · 2013-04-10, 05:50 PM

Since you could not have foreseen a cert grant this is not pay to win. It his however kind of silly, refunded SC imho should have been the way they went. I would imagine that was more difficult though and thus they opted for a cert grant. Some of those numbers are insanely high and people shouldn't have been granted that kind of cert points.

ringring · 2013-04-10, 05:56 PM

As I've said elsewhere I receove around 2500 certs on each character. I don't believe I bought any weapon on any character other than my main, although maybe I inadvertedly did it perhaps once, but no more.

Still what am I complaining about, I gotz certs!

Mastachief · 2013-04-10, 05:57 PM

I had 1500certs per char refunded

Chaff · 2013-04-10, 06:00 PM

I too am interested in a Cert Reset. Any word if and when that might come ?

$ony wasn't gonna give SC ...... that represensts possible lost revenue. $ONY ain't gonna ri$k losing out on one $ingle penny they can $queeze outta their cu$tomer ba$e.

Allowing everyone a 1-time (free) Cert-Reset might take some sting outta those with a hurt peepee. So much ranting and crying from players, I could see how Sony may have some thick skin at thi$ point.

I don't see it as a big deal.

Somewhat on this note, for those with Boosts & Advanced Subs ..... do the Passive Certs (up to 48 Certs/day) keep adding up whether you log on every day versus perhaps not logging on for weeks of even months ?

For fans of the game, who aren't too happy with it's present playability ........ it might be worth it to them to spend $15 to $20 / month .... if the could come back in 6 months and have $3,000 in SC built up and close to 9,000 Certs acquired via Passive Cert Gain. Can you guys clarify how this works ?
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GraniteRok · 2013-04-10, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by ringring

As I've said elsewhere I receove around 2500 certs on each character. I don't believe I bought any weapon on any character other than my main, although maybe I inadvertedly did it perhaps once, but no more.

Still what am I complaining about, I gotz certs!

I'm much the same, 3000 per character. I'm like 99% sure I didn't spend any SC for my two alts. I think they made a mistake somewhere and we'll be seeing this being corrected.

TheRagingGerbil · 2013-04-10, 06:03 PM

Higby said characters that bought bundles that had duplicate weapons, camos, etc also got refunds. So that may be where some of you are seeing those certs from.

VanstK · 2013-04-10, 06:04 PM

What do I think? Well, considering that I've seen reports of players getting 25,000+ certs, other reports that purchases on the test server contributed to the cert grant, yet more reports of players that never bought anything getting certs, and countless "suck it up" posts on the official forums?

I think this is raw, unadulterated BS.

Carbon Copied · 2013-04-10, 06:04 PM

Logged in to find 5k of certs; the rights and/or wrongs of it it was nice that they bothered to try and rectify it not a "oh well tough luck".
I've not bought any items on another character so its most likely been when a bundle sale has proved cheaper to buy than say the 2 individual guns I hadn't yet unlocked.

Edit: getting more or less certs doesn't really bother me it doesn't make you a better player in a game like this. Just sounds more like gear envy to me.

Sakaryu · 2013-04-10, 06:04 PM

I just joined to say I received a 28k payout.
http://i.imgur.com/IfrG9jF.png
I can almost for certain say I'm a little bias.