If you could get an SC refund for a shop item...

Emperor Newt · 2013-04-19, 05:11 AM

which one(s) and why?

ringring · 2013-04-19, 05:20 AM

AP on the prowler.

I don't think I've actually ever used it outside of beta because HEAT has always been the better option. And how often is your main threat an opposing tank anyway.

p0intman · 2013-04-19, 05:21 AM

I'd like it back for my crow, because they replaced it with the superior anhilliator. I'm kind of pissed about this thing they do with releasing weapons, nerfing them, and then releasing superior versions of them.

PredatorFour · 2013-04-19, 05:38 AM

I would go for mag AP rounds. Always use the stock gun as it kills tanks and infantry. If the AP rounds REALLY messed up tanks and vehicles like it should, i would use it all the time.

Koadster · 2013-04-19, 05:47 AM

Camos, after the recent art passes that changed them.

Snydenthur · 2013-04-19, 05:57 AM

Almost everything. Shotguns were underpowered even before nerf so I haven't used them for a while. Most of the carbines aren't that good, default and pulsar c would be more than enough. Manticore, I don't know about that, since it got buffed a bit, but I used certs for commissioner, so now I have to use that. 2nd tier smg is ok, but I don't want to cripple myself to close range so I haven't used that much.

Ns-11c isn't that good, but I'm happy I bought it, since it gives me a greatly different experience compared to the dull sounding vanu weapons. So, pulsar c and ns-11c would be the only bought items that I wouldn't refund, everything else would be refunded.

Emperor Newt · 2013-04-19, 06:00 AM

Nemesis - only effective in groups and replaced by the superior Annihilator
AP for Ligthning - not strong enough in AV to get rid of AI capabilities
HE for Lightning - I do not see the point when you can just roll with HEAT. The difference in AI is small, the difference in AV noticeable
AP primary for Magrinder - same as above
Skyguard - While fun to use, not effective enough. A max does everything way better
Rocketpods - While not a bad weapon (actually, it's too good /imho) I despise their whole design and concept. Stupid weapon.
ESF AA missiles - useless

Only stuff left is my shotty and my smg. Which are okayish. I doubt I would buy them again, but they are, besides cosmetics almost the only thing I would keep.

Tom Peters · 2013-04-19, 06:10 AM

Originally Posted by p0intman

I'd like it back for my crow, because they replaced it with the superior anhilliator. I'm kind of pissed about this thing they do with releasing weapons, nerfing them, and then releasing superior versions of them.

Uhm, I'm not positive on all this stuff, but if the CROW is the ground lock-on rocket launcher for the NC, I'm pretty sure it's better at disposing of ground targets than the Annihilator is.

I figure the same must be true of the AA launcher versus air being superior to the annihilator. I've been hit by an annihilator rocket in my ESF before, and it did a measly 17%. Pathetic.

I think the Stryker might be superior to all the previous lock-ons, though, which kinda sucks for those like me who have all of them.

MrMak · 2013-04-19, 07:24 AM

The coplaints about thel ock on launchers are frankly idiotic. The old launchers do more damage lock on faster and can be dumbfired. Claiming that the Anihilator is "vastly superior" is just jumping on a bandwagon.

Sure you can use it against both air and tanks but its inferior in both those roles simply becouse of its pitifull damage.

The only reason i even have it is that its cheaper to get it instead of the 2 specialised ones.

HiroshiChugi · 2013-04-19, 07:32 AM

The camos that I bought before the camo update. My Sundy now sticks out like a mansion in a trailer park instead blending right in to the background. It really annoys me because before the pdate, I would be moving down a road (not even stopping) when an ESF or a Liberator flew by, and didn't even get shot at. Now, II get shot at even if I'm standing still... It's really starting to piss me off. Why SOE did this, I don't even have the slightest idea. If it was some sort of bug, then it should have been fixed IMMEDIATELY, and should not have been waited on.

psijaka · 2013-04-19, 08:19 AM

Second Pounder.

The trajectory was difficult to handle before GU7, but they have increased the gravity from 2 to 10; I might as well be throwing bricks at tanks. The Pounder was lame before but it is utterly worthless now.

Emperor Newt · 2013-04-19, 08:23 AM

Originally Posted by MrMak

Sure you can use it against both air and tanks but its inferior in both those roles simply becouse of its pitifull damage.

Both are best used in groups. A single lock on launcher won't change anything. For single user use there are better options against AA and AV.
And when in a group the shorter lock on timer and higher damage doesn't matter anymore. You are overkilling your target anyway. Also the group being able to kill any approaching vehicle is way more valuable then any of the benefits of the dedicated launchers.
It's the same problem with many of PS2 weapons balance. They look equal on paper, but once you use them within their respective combat scenario, one becomes the better choice.

ThatGoatGuy · 2013-04-19, 08:34 AM

I'm sad to say that the weapons that I have bought were with certs

. I spent 760 certs into my trac 5 s. 730 into my TMG 50. 290 into my default Trac 5. 190 into my carv. So many certs I have wasted on guns that are useless for maybe 1 or 2 things, instead of getting my preferred weapon right away, the t5 amc. I also spent SC on things that I wish I hadn't. I spent SC on my rotary cannon for my mossi, which was totally useless due to it being only 250 certs. I would die for a cert reset and a SC reset, because now I'm getting multi-use camo sets and I have many of my classes made out with single use ones, which irks me.

Maarvy · 2013-04-19, 08:53 AM

I own every vanu lmg , I'd drop them all and keep the pulsar lsw and the Flare .

The first gen Submachine gun - 2nd gen is just so much better

The phobos shotgun - I use the pandora too much

Battle rifle - even after the recoil buff is too lackluster damage wise ( better use a flare or ursa with 6x scope )

Manticore pistol - wont ever use after the NS pistols

ringring · 2013-04-19, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by ThatGoatGuy

I'm sad to say that the weapons that I have bought were with certs

. I spent 760 certs into my trac 5 s. 730 into my TMG 50. 290 into my default Trac 5. 190 into my carv. So many certs I have wasted on guns that are useless for maybe 1 or 2 things, instead of getting my preferred weapon right away, the t5 amc. I also spent SC on things that I wish I hadn't. I spent SC on my rotary cannon for my mossi, which was totally useless due to it being only 250 certs. I would die for a cert reset and a SC reset, because now I'm getting multi-use camo sets and I have many of my classes made out with single use ones, which irks me.

I must admit I bought the Trac 5 S and after using it for a bit found I didn't like it.

I use the T5 AMC too now, it's great.