Eve Online just made me jealous...

Rolfski · 2013-04-26, 08:51 PM

about THIS: http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/04/26/em...fighting-game/

I so much want this for PS2 (although Eve is an arguably better suited game for it), dog-fighting in my ESF would never be the same.

If there's anybody on Fanfest 2013 atm, please share your experience and tell us if you could see this work for PS2!

Silent Thunder · 2013-04-26, 09:01 PM

The biggest problem I see is Occulus Rift requires a steady framerate of 60 (Which would mean a practical framerate of 120 since it's drawing each frame twice in order to do the 3d effect, then add in the fact that V-synce is probably nessecary and....) otherwise it becomes jarring and disorienting to supposedly the point of nausea. So Ps2 would need to undergo some major optimizations in order for this to be possible.

EvilNinjadude · 2013-04-26, 09:54 PM

EVE. MMO gaming at its finest. And now the devs are pulling something as awesome as this out of their butts? Holy christ!

Yeah, Thunder, i can definitely see FPSrates being a problem. Devs would have to make the game FORWARDS COMPATIBLE, and wait until the hardware which is good enough is affordable enough that it's a feature that'll be fully welcomed and useable by the majority.

Hamma · 2013-04-26, 10:31 PM

Smed is there at fanfest, maybe he will come in and comment. :P

Rolfski · 2013-04-27, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by Hamma

Smed is there at fanfest, maybe he will come in and comment. :P

That would be very nice of him actually. I know SOE is interested in Oculus Rift. Maybe CCP is exchanging their dev experience with them.

Selerox · 2013-04-27, 03:01 AM

Nice idea. But if it requires stable 60fps then this will never make it into PS2 at this rate...

Tom Peters · 2013-04-27, 03:51 AM

If they could make THAT the EVE experience with thousands of players the way EVE currently is, it'd be amazing. But let's face it, it's a long ways off. A game like what they're showing off can only really be done on small scale for now.

I must say, the Oculus Rift is pretty amazing, I had a buddy who demoed it on HAWKEN and said it was so incredibly real. Simulated 3D makes you really feel like you are flying.

But there is the constant issue of lag. The device on your head will probably take 25-50 milliseconds before it moves your screen appropriately, which is the same issue the Wii, PS Move and Kinect suffer from.

As a gamer that hates any sort of input lag, I'm against it. But if they could rectify that entirely (which I don't think they can for a while >.> ) I'll be all over it.

bjorntju1 · 2013-04-27, 07:41 AM

You think that is awesome? Look at this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOx9rrv8MAc

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/

Rothnang · 2013-04-27, 08:29 AM

I honestly think the biggest problem with the OR is that you'll have a fucked up neck if you play with that thing for a whole weekend. Humans don't tend to respond well to having weights added to their head.

Ghoest9 · 2013-04-27, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Rothnang

I honestly think the biggest problem with the OR is that you'll have a fucked up neck if you play with that thing for a whole weekend. Humans don't tend to respond well to having weights added to their head.

This.
It will have to be extremely light weight to be viable. And even then it will have to be designed with balanced weight front and rear.
If you have reasonably strong neck muscles you can wear something like a motorcycle helmet for an extended period or even a modern military helmet - but they are balanced and they weigh less than you might expect.

Rolfski · 2013-04-27, 04:17 PM

HOLY CRAP, I JUST BECAME EVEN MORE JEALOUS: EVE WILL HAVE THEIR OWN TV SERIES AND COMIC BOOKS BASED ON PLAYER STORIES!

Hurry up SOE, they're stealing all the cool ideas for PS2!

RykerStruvian · 2013-04-27, 04:35 PM

The Occulus is being developed mainly by John Carmack, right?

Hamma · 2013-04-27, 04:39 PM

Well in SOE's defense, EVE has quite a lush and rich history of player shenanigans. PlanetSide 2 right now isn't capable of something like a TV series based on player stories. They need more sandbox.

Ghoest9 · 2013-04-27, 05:05 PM

"Do you remember the day when we fought all day and captured the Crown?"
"Ya that was awesome."
'Lets make it into a comic series."
"Well call it 1000 ways to capture the Crown."

p0intman · 2013-04-27, 05:12 PM

I have been considering ways to bring "emergent gameplay" to Planetside.

That is all I'm saying. Especially since its entirely free to play. You have been warned.