So about that email...

MasterChief096 · 2013-06-11, 05:54 PM

In 9 days, one month will have gone by out of everyone's free time, without most former PS1 players even knowing about it.

Why is SOE delaying the email so long? It's an email, not a game update. It takes literally 10 minutes to draft the email. The longest part is probably flagging all the accounts it would go to.

I suggest SOE sends an email out and adds another month of free time for those who didn't know about the free time until they eventually get around sending the email.

I'm not bitching, except that I kind of am, because the only people who know about PS1's free time are the former PS1 players that saw the post in PS2 forums (hard to find unless you look for it, or even care) or the PS1 players that still actually lurk around here (very small minority).

Most PS1 players would probably love to come back and try out PS1 again.

We're forgetting that the majority of PS1 players are from the 2003-late 2005 era, and most of them stopped keeping track of PS1 or checking PSU long ago.

How about those emails guys?

basti · 2013-06-11, 06:13 PM

Really fun.

"Nobody is Playing PS1 because of the subscription!"
Soe gives PS1 and PS2 players 6 months free

"Nobody is playing PS1 because people dont know they got free time! SOE FIX THIS!"

Yea, no. Realize: Its over.

The emal wont change a thing. Word of mouth went around, news got posted, things go said, nobody cared. The game is dead, and an email to everyone who ever played would not change that. It may provide a short pop boost to maybe a cont lock, maybe two, but it would die down again pretty quickly.

Then what?

"People stopped playing again because there is no development happening! Fix shit SOE!"

The simple truth is: No, SOE does not have to help you out here. You want the game back, you go and find the players! SOE would have to invenst quite a bit of cash to make the game capable of sustaining itself. So far, there is no audience that would make that move a good idea.

Wahooo · 2013-06-11, 06:29 PM

Basti,

A lot of what you are saying is true. However, word of mouth only gets so far, and when people trickle in and see less than 100 people in game they leave again and don't come back.
Example, one of my outfit mates has been playing PS2 very sporadically and hasn't even looked back at PS1 or read up about it even though he was one of the last subscribers, active in PS1 all the way through PS2 beta. He only heard about the free time through the Enclave's outfit night. He downloaded the game and low and behold there was a squad of us running that night.
As I said THIS was a guy that had kept his sub for PS1 active until the bitter bitter end and wanted to come back to play bu had he not been involved with The Enclave in other games and checking in on their PS2 boards he would have never known. I would gamble that THAT guy is more the rule than the exception .

You are right, SOE is never going to update PS1, it has been 6 years since the last update if you don't count lasher buff-nerf-buff-nerf, and there is no way for them to actually make money off of the game.
But the fact they did nothing at all to announce the 6 free months? Another slap in the face to the PS1 players.

Worst part about the game right now is the number of people I disliked playing with and against? A lot of them did come back. Sadly I have almost no fun in game right now, but all it would need for ME personally is a few more of the folks I had fun with/against, but I don't know who they are in real life so I guess they are gone forever.

Baneblade · 2013-06-11, 07:03 PM

I don't see the point in being opposed to an email telling people they can play PS1 again. They sent one out when SWG went F2P in its dying days and that game was definitively ending. There is no end date set for PlanetSide. So why not capitalize on the IP?

The answer is simple of course: SOE has no long term vested interest in PlanetSide... 1 or 2.

Now you can argue that PS2 isn't slated for the same dustbin PS1 is currently struggling not to be tossed in, but time will tell. Once EQ3 is out, PS2 will be dropped like a rock. It will be down to a single server within 2 years of EQ3's release.

Effective · 2013-06-12, 12:26 AM

Yes, basti. People are clearly going to come play a game they don't even know they can play. That clearly makes sense. If you don't want to play PS1, you don't have too. So why are you here shitting on other people for no reason?

MasterChief096 · 2013-06-12, 02:31 AM

Basti, you are also forgetting how day one of the free time was. There wasn't a pop-lock on day one. On average, there was probably around 100-200 players on throughout that day. That means the word didn't reach that many people.

Nothing is as effective as a mass email. SOE posted a small little post in PS2 forums (small amount of people in PS2 forums care about PS1 in the first place) and didn't even mention that PS2 accounts have free time, so none of those players even cared.

PSU posted, but how many former PS1 players from 2003-2006 or even 2003-2010 even check PSU anymore about PlanetSide News?

There was my petition as well as all the (mostly dead) outfit forums I blasted as well as what others did, but that only reached another 100-200 people tops.

Community word of mouth can only go so far when most of the community isn't even around anymore.

Why are you so opposed to something as easy as emailing? If you question me, I'll say it now as undeniable proof:

I, MasterChief096, do hereby proclaim that if SOE and PSU both email every former PlanetSide 1 player, and I mean every player, and the game dies before the six months are up, I will forever hold my peace and admit that PlanetSide 1 is dead and stop pushing SOE/PSU to do something to revive it. I won't do what you propose Basti and ask them to develop the game as another excuse, although it is a perfectly valid complaint that the game should not cost a dime with no development.

Besides, Smedley said the six months were to give them time to implement F2P for PlanetSide, so why not email players so that the free six months are actually fun? Doesn't make any sense. They took the time to flag all the accounts for free time but not accompany it with an email? The email would have taken far less effort.

Crator · 2013-06-12, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by basti

"People stopped playing again because there is no development happening! Fix shit SOE!"

LOL, that's taking it a bit too far. I don't think anyone would suggest that. We had PS1 for many many years without development. Pretty sure most people don't expect it to happen. Actually, they might but only because SOE said they were going to make it F2P.

ChipMHazard · 2013-06-12, 10:33 AM

Only thing I can add is to try and hit up Hamma again after E3.

Effective · 2013-06-12, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by Crator

LOL, that's taking it a bit too far. I don't think anyone would suggest that. We had PS1 for many many years without development. Pretty sure most people don't expect it to happen. Actually, they might but only because SOE said they were going to make it F2P.

I think he somehow extracted that from people complaining about paying for a game that has no development

Stomps · 2013-06-13, 03:05 AM

SOE did the right thing giving the free time. Rather than spend precious dev resource creating the f2p interface and links based on old fans saying of course well play an f2p version, they took the hit on the few subscribers left, threw it open and said come play it while we see if its really worth converting, and without ill will towards any longtime PS1 fans, its looking as if its failed its test?

Baneblade · 2013-06-13, 06:48 AM

It's a rigged test.

I understand SOE's obstinance regarding PS1, it wouldn't be the first time they threw a game under the bus because they didn't want to deal with it, but I honestly don't get why PSU hasn't sent an email.

p0intman · 2013-06-13, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Baneblade

It's a rigged test.

I understand SOE's obstinance regarding PS1, it wouldn't be the first time they threw a game under the bus because they didn't want to deal with it, but I honestly don't get why PSU hasn't sent an email.

it was mentioned on command chat a week or two ago that hamma basically is incapable of keeping his personal bias for ps2 out of the equation and actually just wants ps1 dead and doesnt really want to do anything to help.

it wasn't me that said that, but I agree. Him and basti because basti is fucking terrible.

Originally Posted by basti

Really fun.

"Nobody is Playing PS1 because of the subscription!"
Soe gives PS1 and PS2 players 6 months free

"Nobody is playing PS1 because people dont know they got free time! SOE FIX THIS!"

Yea, no. Realize: Its over.

The emal wont change a thing. Word of mouth went around, news got posted, things go said, nobody cared. The game is dead, and an email to everyone who ever played would not change that. It may provide a short pop boost to maybe a cont lock, maybe two, but it would die down again pretty quickly.

Then what?

"People stopped playing again because there is no development happening! Fix shit SOE!"

The simple truth is: No, SOE does not have to help you out here. You want the game back, you go and find the players! SOE would have to invenst quite a bit of cash to make the game capable of sustaining itself. So far, there is no audience that would make that move a good idea.

please fuck off.

OpolE · 2013-06-13, 05:15 PM

I am giving it until just before 1st July for them to celebrate this Planetside Day/Community anniversary through emails and announcements or im just fully done with SOE and I wish them failure in every game they make....

Oh wait, it really has gone that way hasn't it? haha

Lucidius · 2013-06-14, 12:38 AM

It's a vicious cycle. People arn't playing because the game sucks with low numbers. Because of that fact, no one will log on so the numbers won't increase. It's sort of like how everyone I know who was excited for MAG (including myself) took a wait and see approach to it and decided not to get it when it wasn't the next 'biggest thing' and the populations didn't retain. That game's servers have been offline for well over a year now iirc. The issue with planetside isn't that cut and dry.

Originally Posted by basti

SOE would have to invenst quite a bit of cash to make the game capable of sustaining itself.

"Smedley: Server Hosting for Planetside is dirt cheap"

I'm sure the 2-3 vets and small handful of chinese people who payed for the game once a year payed for the servers or else SOE woulda cut them looonggg ago. Sure, that's my speculation but what Smed said isn't.

Arkaiden · 2013-06-14, 09:46 AM

MAG is still around Lucidius, or was as of 2 months ago.