Massive Nerf to Vehicle Radar

[subDii]

"The vehicle must be occupied for radar to function.”

I would like to see some type of "car keys" tool that one can use to 1) reset vehicle expiry time 2) temporarily activate vehicle so radar can be active without driver (a cool down on both these abilities)

[maradine]

While I enjoyed the novelty of spamming unmanned radar flashes into fights, I'll be the first to admit it was cheap and probably unintended.

[Carbon Copied]

Gives the Infiltrator more of a role and use for their darts - where before people just drove the radar vehicle in and shoved it anywhere rendering them pretty much obsolete: even as someone who isn't a full time infiltrator I see this as a good change and not a nerf.

[Larington]

Well first there's the requirement it be occupied. I'm ok with this, it's as much a buff to infiltrator radar darts as it is a nerf to vehicle radar.

The other change is movement based radar instead of auto detection. Which I'm perfectly ok with, there's been a couple of occasions where an enemy ESF fly's over the bush I'm hiding in, staying completely still so as to not be detected. Next thing I know I'm being rocket podded 'cause the git has a radar module installed.

[Boildown]

Its a free to play game. How many certs is it to max out flash radar? How much does it cost to make a mule character on a second account? Did they actually buff flash radar?

This is a nerf to casuals who played smart and stuck a radar flash in a building, this is a buff to high end / serious outfits who will 2-box a second mule to sit on the flash (or tell their little brother to do it), because radar now detects stealthed infiltrators, which it did not before.

[Dragonskin]

Originally Posted by Boildown

Its a free to play game. How many certs is it to max out flash radar? How much does it cost to make a mule character on a second account? Did they actually buff flash radar?

This is a nerf to casuals who played smart and stuck a radar flash in a building, this is a buff to high end / serious outfits who will 2-box a second mule to sit on the flash (or tell their little brother to do it), because radar now detects stealthed infiltrators, which it did not before.

It's worth noting that SOE was originally going to release the implants in the same patch which would have allowed infiltrators to stay undetected by radar.. or anyone else for that matter, but would have been more beneficial to infiltrators. Implants were yanked, but the radar changes still went live.

Creating a demand.. now SOE just needs to figure out the supply.

[typhaon]

It was very cheap - but it was also a pretty effective tool for defenders, as it became common practice.

I think this will make defending that much harder.

[Boildown]

Lol, based on the official forums, it seems that this change has brought huge publicity to scout radar, the second most underused tool in all of Planetside 2 (next to effectively used spawn beacons). I knew people had no idea how awesome it was, or else I'd see it used more often. Now people get a clue the moment it is too late.

[DirtyBird]

Since they fixed recon dart lotto this change doesn't bother me as much now.

That 2nd box option for radar is interesting tho...

[Hamma]

This change doesn't bother me to much.

[Fenrys]

I'll probably start using the Flash like an engineer's turret. Still gonna park it inside buildings, but now I'll cover a doorway using the Kobalt instead of on foot.

[Ghoest9]

The only change that is bad is the its even easier than before to find infs.

[War Barney]

Originally Posted by subDii

"The vehicle must be occupied for radar to function.”

I would like to see some type of "car keys" tool that one can use to 1) reset vehicle expiry time 2) temporarily activate vehicle so radar can be active without driver (a cool down on both these abilities)

Sure if I can get into enemy vehicles and kill them all with it, only makes sense as they were stupid enough to leave the keys in.

[maradine]

Originally Posted by Boildown

This is a nerf to casuals who played smart and stuck a radar flash in a building, this is a buff to high end / serious outfits who will 2-box a second mule to sit on the flash (or tell their little brother to do it), because radar now detects stealthed infiltrators, which it did not before.

If your greatest residual balance issue after a change is that (*gasp*) someone might dual-box, you've pretty much done your job.

[Baneblade]

Glad they nerfed it.